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jon - please note that was done as one post.
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I think my stance is clear on the issue. In my opinion Operation Immortal beloved is a GO."Do not honour the worthy, And the people will not compete. Do not value rare treasures, And people will not steal. Do not display what people want, And the people will not have their hearts confused. A sage governs this way: He empties peoples minds and fills their bellies. He weakens their wills and strengthens their bone. Keep the people always without knowledge and without desires, For then the clever will not dare act. Engage in no action and order will prevail."-Loazi "The Classic of The Way and Its Powers"Comment
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You can get elite units off barbarians. You just can not get leaders off them. This brings up another area where the over civs have an advantage. Due to our small land area being completely covered or at least visible by units, there is no fog of war to generate barbarians. Other civs have been, and probably are still, making money and promoting units by attacking barbarians.If we want to fight it out on the continent, I have no doubt we will do OK. A second GoW horseman - an elite was visible on the save this morning. If they didn't actually attack any Lux units - how did they do that.Comment
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Yes - good point.Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.Comment
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Trip posted this in the intersite game forum regarding a discussion about longer term strategic plans and alliances that were being bounced around. Thought it was relevant. Still doesn't change my mind. But there will be fall out.
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I'll say it once and I'll say it again: backstabbing your neighbor who you're allied with is a reputation hit that you will never recover from. All the other civs will immediately be wary of us, and afraid to get closer to us for fear of us attacking them.
As I've said before, we should simply remain neutral until we pick the side we wish. We can then throw all the justification we want with either side without being known as "backstabbers."
end of quoteCry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.Comment
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We have no choice but to fight with GS. But without external help we wont be able to accomplish much."Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.Comment
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YES! We need more land and if GoW, and NeuD and the others don't want us on 'their' continent then we definitely need to have our own continent to play with, the small amount of space we have can only support one maybe two more cities!Arg-ha LardgoaComment
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We can put a few more south of Elipolis. Our main problem is that very few of our cities will have much production.Comment
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If we catch them a bit by suprise - and take out a couple cities early - and with at least a limited number of troops in their back field - and pump up production of warriors after the initial wave in order to have a second wave of Immortals if our first rush falters, I think we will do OK.Originally posted by Eli
We have no choice but to fight with GS. But without external help we wont be able to accomplish much.
But I agree - more outside help would be nice.Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.Comment
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remember we will be in a golden Age. Production should go up a lot"Do not honour the worthy, And the people will not compete. Do not value rare treasures, And people will not steal. Do not display what people want, And the people will not have their hearts confused. A sage governs this way: He empties peoples minds and fills their bellies. He weakens their wills and strengthens their bone. Keep the people always without knowledge and without desires, For then the clever will not dare act. Engage in no action and order will prevail."-Loazi "The Classic of The Way and Its Powers"Comment
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Yup - in some respects a bit of a waste of the GA, but given what we are gambling for, well worth it.Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.Comment
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Actually, we will not waste that much of our GA. Most of our tiles only produce one shield and commerce so a second one can be added without Despot loss. We will not benefit on hills so in this case a flat tile is better. Question is, do we want to switch to Republic before at trigger the GA or wait until our GA is over so we do not waste part of our GA in anarchy. If GoW takes out the GS warrior near Elipolis we would have time to make the switch to Republic before our Immortals fight their first battle. We should have any pop-rusing in Dissidentville finished before then so I do not see any reason to stay in Despotism.Comment
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yes, I think switching to Rep. could be a big bonus."Do not honour the worthy, And the people will not compete. Do not value rare treasures, And people will not steal. Do not display what people want, And the people will not have their hearts confused. A sage governs this way: He empties peoples minds and fills their bellies. He weakens their wills and strengthens their bone. Keep the people always without knowledge and without desires, For then the clever will not dare act. Engage in no action and order will prevail."-Loazi "The Classic of The Way and Its Powers"Comment
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I say we do not switch. We will have 4-6 turns of anarchy - and there is no way we can afford that. And we may need to utilize pop rushing for a lst push to victory. I realize the economic disadvantages, but don't think we can afford it in the very short term.Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.Comment
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The advantage of saying a Despot is that any cities we conquer with a few citizens can be used to pop-rush. Since those cities may not have access to any luxuries until we conquer some they will likely have starvation problems. Pop-rushing will solve that quickly.Comment
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