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This is the poll that goes with the proposed response to GS, follwing the previous poll, which the last time I looked was 4-1 in favour of keeping our options open.
I see three choices.
1. No Trades.
This means they have to research bronze working to get spearman. For the next period it will be their chariots and our spearmen, and then our immortals if we find iron. It will solidify our early game advantage if we want to go to war. By the time immortals are coming out, they will have few if any spearmen, so they would probably come out swinging with chariots.
(WE WILL NEED TO KEEP AN EYE ON THIS. THEY MAY SEEM SO THREATENED BY THIS SET UP THAT THEY COME AT US EARLY.)
For this option we can use the excuse that we are negotiating right now with our neighbours and want to see what they have on the table. Which is true.
A last consideration - this will force them into the bronze and iron research path - which keeps them away from Alphabet, Writing, Literature.
2. Agree to the bronze working for wheel trade.
This may make them feel less threatened. Why? Because the downside is that it clearly weakens our hand for an early military advantage.
It is a 30 beeker (bronze) for 40 beeker (wheel) trade. This is good.
Another consideration is that they likely have burnt up a couple of turns researching bronze already, so we have wasted some of their research.
Gives us the wheel, with which we can wheel and deal with Lux.
3. Agree to the bronze for wheel trade, and agree to the future Alphabet (50 beeker) for Iron (60 beeker)trade as they proposed. All the above apply to the first part.
It keeps them away from researching iron working.
We can always renege on the second part, if we want to get aggressive.
If we go through with it, we will have gone on to researching something else, and will have even more to trade with Lux.
One more consideraion in all this - it probably applies to the first point and the early threat of war if they come at us with chariots if they seemd threatened. If this does happen, and a chariot wins a battle, their Golden Age would be activated. At a point when they have 3-5 samll cities. This could be a huge advantage for us down the road. We survive the initial on-slought, have afew more cities, roll out some Immortals, and use our own some 10-15 turns later to hopefully overpower them.
Anyways - get out and VOTE!!!
I see three choices.
1. No Trades.
This means they have to research bronze working to get spearman. For the next period it will be their chariots and our spearmen, and then our immortals if we find iron. It will solidify our early game advantage if we want to go to war. By the time immortals are coming out, they will have few if any spearmen, so they would probably come out swinging with chariots.
(WE WILL NEED TO KEEP AN EYE ON THIS. THEY MAY SEEM SO THREATENED BY THIS SET UP THAT THEY COME AT US EARLY.)
For this option we can use the excuse that we are negotiating right now with our neighbours and want to see what they have on the table. Which is true.
A last consideration - this will force them into the bronze and iron research path - which keeps them away from Alphabet, Writing, Literature.
2. Agree to the bronze working for wheel trade.
This may make them feel less threatened. Why? Because the downside is that it clearly weakens our hand for an early military advantage.
It is a 30 beeker (bronze) for 40 beeker (wheel) trade. This is good.
Another consideration is that they likely have burnt up a couple of turns researching bronze already, so we have wasted some of their research.
Gives us the wheel, with which we can wheel and deal with Lux.
3. Agree to the bronze for wheel trade, and agree to the future Alphabet (50 beeker) for Iron (60 beeker)trade as they proposed. All the above apply to the first part.
It keeps them away from researching iron working.
We can always renege on the second part, if we want to get aggressive.
If we go through with it, we will have gone on to researching something else, and will have even more to trade with Lux.
One more consideraion in all this - it probably applies to the first point and the early threat of war if they come at us with chariots if they seemd threatened. If this does happen, and a chariot wins a battle, their Golden Age would be activated. At a point when they have 3-5 samll cities. This could be a huge advantage for us down the road. We survive the initial on-slought, have afew more cities, roll out some Immortals, and use our own some 10-15 turns later to hopefully overpower them.
Anyways - get out and VOTE!!!
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