The Foreign Affairs Thread

[Dis]

yes they did seem anxious. I have recieved some PM's and e-mails.

I'm not sure why they are so anxious to get this deal through. Maybe they are scared . Many of the things we really can't do right now. Like connecting our civs. That will take a very long time. And we don't have many techs to share yet.

I guess this will affect what they do next turn. There is the possibility of them attacking if we don't agree to stay out of the southern continent. But I've already let my view known on that. I will only accept what is fair. I'm not going to let them take the entire S. America type continent just because they started there. It is bigger than the N. America type continent.

[Beta]

Diss - if you have received PM's and e-mails, and you think they might add to the discussion, please copy them here in the forum. Thanks.

[Dis]

nothing really interesting on the e-mails. Let me check

1st e-mail: Could you guys check your pm's
(Especially Betahound, as he is your ambassador to us,we have sent the latest one to you and Eli too, rather urgent )

2nd 3-mail: ASAP of course, but if you could just let ManiStarSeed know,
You received the PM's that would do for now .

Sorry to bug this much.


Both from Alain

PM's: hi,

greetz from GS,

this is unofficial (well sort of)
Could you check your pm regularly the next couple of hours/days



(we can't seem to get in contact with your ambassador to us )
thanks,

Alva,

The second PM: Greetings again friend BetaHound and Vox Controli:

We hope your journey has been going well. Your warriors appear well-trained, well-fed and happy (not to mention quiet muscular!), so we can only assume your nation is at least as glorious as ours, if not more. We are therefore pleased to have contacted you at the beginning of this new era. Who knows what the future will hold? Let us become masters of our own fates and discuss our future relationship.

As an act of good faith, we ask that Vox Controli cease southern exploration for the duration of these negotiations; Gathering Storm will do the same in turn for the northern direction.

Gathering Storm has put together several proposals and we would appreciate your open consideration of them. Please feel free to counter-offer where you see fit. Our goal is to negotiate and make deals mutually beneficial. We will seriously consider any additional deal you bring to the table. The following is a list of our proposals:

1. Temporarily cease North/South exploration as described above. This act of good faith would be the basis for any future negotations.

2. Begin discussion of a potential tech-trading parternship between our two teams. Tech trading would effectively double our respective research rates, ensuring a tech advantage on the world scene.

3. Exchange information regarding luxuries each of us has discovered North and South of the isthmus (South for us, North for you). Connecting our empires and trading luxuries promises obvious economic advantages.

4. Simultaneously reveal to each other either: 1) whether or not we have contacted another team, or further 2) precisely which other team(s) we have already contacted. Our future plans depend critically on who our neighbors are, so obtaining this information early should prove useful to both of us.

5. Discuss what to do about the chokepoint/isthmus with regards to unit movement. The isthmus is clear and important landmark, and reaching an understanding as to its use would reduce early tensions between our teams.

We hope to hear from you in the very near future; please contact us before your next turn, or before the turn after that at the very latest. We apologize if requesting such a quick response causes any inconvenience, but time is of the essence.


Sincerely,

ManicStarSeed and Gathering Storm

[Beta]

Yes - they do seem restless. I think I wil send MSS a quick note to say his proposals are under active consideration and we will be back to him shortly.

Just to calm their nerves. I think they are trying to rattle us.

[Jon Miller]

I think that we should only put pu our second warrior as defense if they do not move their warriors out fo the area

if theye do, I think we should have the warrior who is coming, follow them (I know, this is in the wrong thread sorta, but it reflects in the diploimacy)

I think that the main poin t to their diplomacy is the north south deal

as such, we mcust see what is south (and southeast and southwest)

Jon Miller

[Dis]

yeah that's what we were discussing in the irc. That sounds good

[Jon Miller]

maybe just keep our second warrior between them and the isthmus

than that does not tip our hand, but allow us to defend the isthmus with tow warriors if their two get agressive

Jonj Miller

[Dis]

yeah, I'll do that. Depending on where they are. If anything it allows us advanced warning to anybody coming close to the isthmus. I can keep the second (really our fourth) warrior on a hill nearby. If they move in, I'll drop him back to foritfy with the other warrior. Getting on top of the hill nearby will give us a better reconassaince.

[Eli]

I received a PM from Manic addressed to Beta. Told him it was a wrong address.

[Beta]

Listen - I'm crafting up my short - be back to u shortly - reply. Is it OK to share the warriors piece from the one book. By now they will have seen three warriors. Give them something to think about.

[Dis]

sure I guess, although I'm not convinced they saw our third warrior. but I see no harm in letting them know our military is bigger than the units they see . We need to show them we have a decent size force even if they are just warriors.

[Jon Miller]

BTW, I have been chatting with LUX

I beleive that they have met Legoland

Jon Miller

[Jon Miller]

I see no problem mentioning a third warrior

as well as the rest of our army

I think that we should go for the bluff approach right ow

Jon Miller

[Beta]

sent to GS:

Dear ManicStarSeed.

I trust this letter finds you and your nation in the best of health.

Thank-you for your recent correspondence. Yes, these are exciting times when civilizations first meet. And thank-you as well for your list of proposals. You should be aware that they are under active deliberation as I speak, in order that we may respond with one voice.

We fully appreciate your concerns regarding the need for haste in reaching our conclusions. But these are meaty - er, I did not mean to offend any vegans in your party. Let me rephrase. These are weighty issues for fledgling civilizations such as ours. You have my assurance that we will expedite our deliberations to the greatest extent possible.

Given that our Warriors have met in the great unknown, and you have made Willy's aquaintance, I could not resist the temptation to leaf through the one book, and share with you one of my favorite sectons. It is, appropriately enough, from the Book of Warriors.

Warriors I, Verses 1 to 6.

1. And so it came to be that the people of Vox Controli founded the capitol, "The Voice".

2. And the Voice begat warriors.

3. The Voice begat Willy. The Voice begat Tim. The Voice begat Thadeus.

4. And Willy went out of The Voice, and into the wilderness.

5. And the shadows receded, and light shone upon the land.

6. And the people of Vox Controli cried out in unison and joy.

Thus ends the reading.

Very uplifting, isn't it. I get a tingle everytime I read it. Makes me almost wish that I had taken up a different line of work. Sigh - the life of a bureaucrat - well you understand.

My dear sir, I must make my leave. I wish you well. I will make every endeavour to get back to you very shortly.

Sincerest regards,

BetaHound
Voice of Foreign Affairs
Vox Controli

- I am now working on the formal response to their proposals as per the poll and discussion.

[Beta]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
BTW, I have been chatting with LUX

I beleive that they have met Legoland

Jon Miller

I wonder if what we have here are three small continents - 2 civs on two of them and 3 on the third. Just our luck to get GS.