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  • #16
    Yes, the fish on the ocean coast, the cow to the north-east and the incense in the north-west are all in position with the city - when the city expands, we will have all 3 in our radius. We also have game located just south-east of the city (in the forest) which should be used right now to assist in production/food...is that another game icon I see under our worker??

    Concerning the lake on the south side of our capital - with it being there, our capital doesn't have to build an aquaduct to expand past size 6 - this is GREAT news...and of course we can use the lake to irrigate our terrain.
    Last edited by Wittlich; December 2, 2002, 14:21.
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    • #17
      Eli - muchos gracias, for the info above.

      And thanks for the file. At home after work now. My first chnace to see the start - meat yes, as Flash said. Plus game, plus fish.

      But heh - are we on an island?? Looks like it to me.

      And - we are off in a nice cozy corner of the world.
      Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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      • #18
        hopefully were not on an island
        Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try. -Homer

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        • #19
          If not an island, then a peninsula, with the mainland to the SW??

          Question - what's the plan for the worker - build road to next city site?
          Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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          • #20
            [QUOTE] Originally posted by Eli


            Add the Vox Controli main forum page to your favorites/bookmarks :
            Apolyton Civilization Site
            http://apolyton.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=170


            OK - I have done this already with Jon's advice. And it gets me there no problem.

            However, is there no easier way to access once you are in Apolyton. ie Forums General - Civ III - C3PTWDG - C3PTWDG Vox Controli - or anything like that?
            Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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            • #21
              Nope. This is an "unlisted" forum.
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              "If God, as they say, is homophobic, I wouldn't worship that God." - Archbishop Desmond Tutu
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              • #22
                OK. Understood. Thanks.
                Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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                • #23
                  Did you see GoW's starting position the C3PTWDC forum? As Wittlich so aptly put it - OUCH. An island of one tile. I betcha we are on an island too. Only larger.

                  Didn't someone set the start conditions, or were they all random? This could be a real boring game for the first upmteen turns if everyone starts on their own island.

                  Then again - research like mad and get that caravel going.
                  Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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                  • #24
                    I too think that we mgiht be on an Island - and if you'll notice, our Capital doesn't have access to the ocean...so building our second city should be a priority...even if the island turns out to not being big enough for 2 cities, we may have to cram the second one in there somewhere - just so that we can eventually build boats.
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                    "One day if I do go to heaven, I'm going to do what every San Franciscan does who goes to heaven - I'll look around and say, 'It ain't bad, but it ain't San Francisco.'" - Herb Caen, 1996
                    "If God, as they say, is homophobic, I wouldn't worship that God." - Archbishop Desmond Tutu
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                    • #25
                      I always build cities within two of eachother (except in some cases of leaving more room for a capital city

                      Jon Miller
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                      GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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                      • #26
                        Of course, we don't know for sure if that is GoW's real starting position...but if it is, we don't have to worry about one team for the time being....now about the other four teams...
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                        "One day if I do go to heaven, I'm going to do what every San Franciscan does who goes to heaven - I'll look around and say, 'It ain't bad, but it ain't San Francisco.'" - Herb Caen, 1996
                        "If God, as they say, is homophobic, I wouldn't worship that God." - Archbishop Desmond Tutu
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Jon Miller
                          I always build cities within two of eachother (except in some cases of leaving more room for a capital city

                          Jon Miller
                          Within 2 of each other?! Wouldn't you have city overlap? I fit cities as close together without getting the overlap - basically, after the city expands, that is the template I use for planning future cities and have them interlock as close as possible without overlap. Of course, ocassionally I will get a slight overlap because of terrain restrictions.
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                          "One day if I do go to heaven, I'm going to do what every San Franciscan does who goes to heaven - I'll look around and say, 'It ain't bad, but it ain't San Francisco.'" - Herb Caen, 1996
                          "If God, as they say, is homophobic, I wouldn't worship that God." - Archbishop Desmond Tutu
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                          • #28
                            I have tons of overlap

                            but I feel what is important is to have lots of mutually supporting cities

                            and to use the land you have to its upmost

                            Jon Miller
                            Jon Miller-
                            I AM.CANADIAN
                            GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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                            • #29
                              I usually take my next city to the best spot available, at least 6 tiles away. In the early game, I like to stake out territory. The citizens in the early game se the best tiles, and when you get into the later game, they use the others. What concerns me more in the early game is staking out land. As much as I can get. With as many resources and bonus (eg wheat and gold) tiles.

                              If on an island, as I think we are, Witt's comments apply.

                              Why in godz name for a demo game did they not put everything at normal settings - or even Pangea - for the sake of a quasi-normal game. It would have been more interesting for meeting other civs, etc.

                              I suspect they set it at random, and it generated a world of islands. Or - maybe only two of us started on islands. Doubt it. Or - maybe there is a big landmass waiting for the first wave of immigrants.

                              Or - maybe Markos set it up this way to see how all the white mice play....

                              (I have asked a couple of times now about marcos playing the Greeks individually in this game - ie without a team - and everyone always remains strangely quiet - what gives??)
                              Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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                              • #30
                                I usually don't build that close unless terrain is limited. If terrain is limited I will use up every single "good" terrain- grassland etc. So if we are on an island we should utilize every decent terrain square possible.

                                And of course if we are on an island we will have nothing else to build. We should build settlers, temple. And shift our focus to getting caravel before the Republic.

                                To the west I saw that mountain chain. Hopefully there is something beyond that.

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