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You may have read Eli's note in the moves column.
notyoueither had asked for a chat - and he and I talked last night for about an hour. I don't have the chat log - but I can summarize the conversation.
He asked how things were going. And noted a slackening of the number of troops coming their way.
I said that we were 'between a rock and a hard place' without giving any more details.
I asked him how much world support they had. He said lots of talk - but that was about it. I said much the same as us, although we did have an ally.
I alluded to the fact that the other civs would see us supported only sufficiently to keep the war going, but not enough to force a decisiion. They had already come to that conclusion. That it was in the rest of the world's interest to see the two of us knock heads.
He asked if we were aware that we had broken a NAP. I said yes we were, and that we had given this some serious thought before doing it .
We then talked options. I indicated to him that peace for us was not an option. That we needed land. Mere survival is not what we are after. He understood.
Which left the only viable alternative - as he put it - 'to go romping on Bob'. They said they would want concessions. I said that that would not go over too well with us.
So - we talked how it might work: (Option 2)
-they would help with a war on Bob. We also talked about who might break ranks on the continent.
-we give them the land south of Elipolis.
- they guarantee us a supply of iron. This would be their safeguard that we behave ourselves. They could always pull it.
I said I would discuss this at our end before he did at theirs. I said 'no promises.' I also said lets keep the negotiations between us. I don't want some of the otehr GS personalities involved.
Comments? Thoughts?
notyoueither had asked for a chat - and he and I talked last night for about an hour. I don't have the chat log - but I can summarize the conversation.
He asked how things were going. And noted a slackening of the number of troops coming their way.
I said that we were 'between a rock and a hard place' without giving any more details.
I asked him how much world support they had. He said lots of talk - but that was about it. I said much the same as us, although we did have an ally.
I alluded to the fact that the other civs would see us supported only sufficiently to keep the war going, but not enough to force a decisiion. They had already come to that conclusion. That it was in the rest of the world's interest to see the two of us knock heads.
He asked if we were aware that we had broken a NAP. I said yes we were, and that we had given this some serious thought before doing it .
We then talked options. I indicated to him that peace for us was not an option. That we needed land. Mere survival is not what we are after. He understood.
Which left the only viable alternative - as he put it - 'to go romping on Bob'. They said they would want concessions. I said that that would not go over too well with us.
So - we talked how it might work: (Option 2)
-they would help with a war on Bob. We also talked about who might break ranks on the continent.
-we give them the land south of Elipolis.
- they guarantee us a supply of iron. This would be their safeguard that we behave ourselves. They could always pull it.
I said I would discuss this at our end before he did at theirs. I said 'no promises.' I also said lets keep the negotiations between us. I don't want some of the otehr GS personalities involved.
Comments? Thoughts?
This would be their safeguard that we behave ourselves. They could always pull it.
I suspect GS will take them out once the catapults reduce them down to a couple of shields each.
Diss. Well, since I've responded so quickly, I guess it isn't dead. 
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