Vox has landed on our continent

[GeneralTacticus]

I was just chatting privately to Hot_Enamel from GoW, and he said that Vox have landed a settler escorted by three Immortals and a Spearman on the NE coast of our continent. He wants to know what our official response will be, and he says he is currently drafting some responses. It seems he would like to know if we would join GoW in telling Vox to put that settler back on the ship or else.

Discuss.

[OliverFA]

Message from GF:

Vox has invaded our continent. Could GS have landed a
force farther south? We need to discuss our reaction
to this.

[pikesfan]

I don’t think we should do anything. If Vox settles a city in the NE, that’s one less city site for GoW and ND. On the other had, if GoW or ND manage to overrun it, then Vox took a risk and lost.

It’s just too far away for us to do anything about even if we want to. Let’s concentrate on settling our own part of the continent, and that will be the best way of preventing anyone else from doing so.

[mrmitchell]

That territory is far too north for us to be worried about it. Tell them it's out of our sphere of interest (or something like that) and we can't help. We've got too much to hte South to be worrying about some city to the north.

[E_T]

Good, something for ND to be worried about. Takes the heat off of us for a while... Unless ND and Vox work against both GoW and Us...

E_T

[ruby_maser]

Vox is probably itching for the opportunity to unleash their GA with those Immortals. I don't think we should help them to those ends. GoW's first reaction is natural, but cooler heads should prevail and the diplomats should take over.

I think we should attempt to form a coalition of GoW, ND, and ourselves and issue a public proclamation that any further cities (after this one which we will mercifully excuse) built on our continent by foreign powers is an act of war against all three of us.

[edit]: on a sidenote, we all have contact with each other now, perhaps it is time to set up the UN...

[History Guy]

Bugger.

I agree that we should take no action. It is in a way to our advantage, as now the Neu Demogypticans and the Warmongers have a new threat to their north. Hopefully, they will allow the Voxians to become more of a pain for them...

On the flip side, maybe it will give us more time to build our troops to invade Neu Demogyptica when the Arabs declare war on China?

Fernand de History Guy Calamari
Squid Baron

[astrologix]

My opinion : no reactions for now. We must continue our REX policy for a while ...

Our Madrid Expedition warriors will continue to survey the eastern coasts in case that a wessel was seen coming to our lands.

[astrologix]

I wonder If GoW wasn't informed about that landing. It's curious that they had a Horseman in this area just when it occured.

[Togas]

Vox has landed on our continent

Ghengis Farb sent me an image of the Vox "invasion" force which consists of 6 spears, 2 immortals, 1 settler. They are on the north eastern tip of the continent.

I am currently in chat with Ghengis Farb & Darekill, both of whom have indicated they will declare war on Vox if they do not remove their units.

I have agreed to stand beside our northern neighbors, and join in the proclaimation that no foriegn nations shall have cities on our continent.

Our Non-Agg with Vox means we can't go to war, which is fine, but we must debate how involved we can get and how involved we want to get.

Key point: We DO NOT want to side against ND & GoW, as they would find this a perfect excuse to team up against us. It is in the best interest of Spain that we side WITH them against a common foe ... although I also want to minimize our foreign affairs damage as best as possible

Please discuss.

--Togas

[Togas]

Darekill of ND & GhengisFarb of GoW and our team have agreed to the following pact:

Treaty forming the Pact of 1075bc

The undersigned nations acknowledge that in order for us to live peacefully with each other, we must have sufficient room to grow our nations. The continent of Bob is large enough to allow peaceful coexistance between all three of our nations, however, it is not large enough to allow a forth foreign nation to build or posess settlements on it.

Therefore, to keep the peace on our contient and to discourage any foreign nation from settling here, we agree to the following terms:

Should any civilization that is not native to Bob create or capture settlements on this continent, the undersigned agree to unite, set aside our differences, and to jointly work to remove the foreign nation using any and all means available to us which include: Embargos, Pillaging, and Warfare.

The undersigned agree that this treaty supercedes all other treaties we have signed with each other and with other nations.

This Treaty creates a Pact between all undersigned nations, and all nations agree to serve, in good faith, the express interests of this pact.

Should any foriegn nation perform any actions with cause this Pact to be invoked, all members of the Pact shall meet and discuss how the Pact shall respond. All members shall abide by decisions made by the Pact.

All undersigned nations are bound to this treaty until giving TEN TURNS notice to the other parties of this treaty that the nation wishes to leave the Pact before actually leaving the Pact.

Darekill has signed this pact.
Ghenghis Farb agreed and has posted it to his forum for ratification.

I am going to send out this pact via PM later today to formalize the agreement.

--Togas

[Togas]

We first met in chat an agreed to the general provisions of the pact above. I explained to GoW & ND that we had a Non-Agg pact with Vox and told them it expired at turn 120. They do not have non-aggs with Vox, and seemed to understand that Spain could not declare war ... but we would assist them as possible.

We invited Vox to join us, Betahound & Jon_Miller joined. There was a lot of argument and posturing by both sides, Vox claiming no one has the rights to decide who can settle where, GF & Darekill arguing that it was on our continent and they were going to settle there.

I explained to Vox that we all 3 agreed that, to keep the peace between us, there was only so much land available and to have to share it with another party would cause us to have less territory to divide.

I also explained to Vox that settling here would invoke the wrath of the two most dangerous teams in the game. They really don't want to do that, settling here would lead to death and destruction. I urged them to keep the peace.

In truth, only GoW & ND lose territory via Vox, but either one could decide to take some of our territory to make up for the loss. Spain has a lot of expansion room and I don't want our northern neighbors to have less ... or else they'll look south instead of looking East.

Furthermore, this event gives all of us a reason not to hate each other, and gives ND & GoW someone else to plot against. I love the fact that Vox seems to be volunteering to be their new enemy #1, all the while Spain can grow and settle our many luxuries, build workers, and rapidly develop our half of the continent.

We must side with ND & GoW on this issue ... and this pact will help should Lego or Vox or GS try to settle some of our unsettled land. We must also try to stay "neutral" with the foriegn civs ... beg them to be peaceful, as opposed to threatening them as GoW & ND are doing.

Keep a close eye on this issue in the chatrooms. This is going to get interesting.

--Togas

[E_T]

We need to make sure that Lego will join us in any embargo (as that is the only support that we can currently provide) that might be brought against Vox. As we don't have any real releations with GS, we need to make sure that, if the join in with Vox because of any reprecussions that this might make, that Lego will not also trade to GS.

This possible future conflict might be split by contenants and we need to make sure that Lego doesn't swing towards the Vox/GS group.

If we can completely Isolate Vox from any further help, then they might not try to build any more cities.

E_T

[MrWhereItsAt]

A further thought...

this pact is good for relations with ND. In a time we are hoping to reestablish that we are not a good target for aggression, especially from ND, we need to be seen to fit the friendly attitudes we are passing to them in the manner of our negotiations with them. Such a Pact ties us closer together, and this in a way is highly opportune, helping us and ND to get over some of the animosity we have felt for each other lately.

Ambassador for ND,
SrWIA.

[GodKing]

When do we strike at ND???? Let them march north against the Vox dogs and take them from behind I say.