Competition for General of the Army of Spain

[mrmitchell]

So is the voting open now? There's already 1 vote for each person.

[Crousto]

Originally posted by mrmitchell
So is the voting open now? There's already 1 vote for each person.

I wonder who cast each of these votes

[ThePlagueRat]

I still got my vote ready, to use when all the others have voted.

[ThePlagueRat]

Urrgh, DP. Sorry!

[Togas]

One last question before we vote

To all Potential Generals. Assuming you are General of Spain and on our next turn we see a stack of 10 Neu Dem swordsmen south of Marlowa. What do you do? What are your orders?

--Togas

[Aidun]

With the Royal Permmission of our Despot Augusto Togas the very last question before we vote:

Señores, assuming we are going to attack ND, what kind of units do you want to use for this attack, how many of each type and what are your arguments for the choice?

Aidun Cian

[pikesfan]

Originally posted by Togas
To all Potential Generals. Assuming you are General of Spain and on our next turn we see a stack of 10 Neu Dem swordsmen south of Marlowa. What do you do? What are your orders?

I don’t know about you, but for me it would be the best time to test out my late uncle’s theory that if you keep your head under the covers the Arabs can’t see you I have to advise the General-candidates that this is not a good answer. Here is what would happen to you if you even thought of this (Lord Togas on the right):



I’ll just get back to my College now

[OOC where does panag get his variety of smilies from?]

[astrologix]

Originally posted by Togas
One last question before we vote

To all Potential Generals. Assuming you are General of Spain and on our next turn we see a stack of 10 Neu Dem swordsmen south of Marlowa. What do you do? What are your orders?

--Togas

My Lord,

First of all, I would go to the High Priest to pray our gods

Secondly I would contact GoW, to negociate an immediate declaration of war against ND (assuming that ND would not negociate peace with us).

My idea is that we can't loose Santiago nor Saragossa. If this happen, we loose our country.

My orders :

Occupie all the tiles near the river on the jungle (to optimize the +25% river + jungle defense bonus), and place some spears on the road tiles between the border cities, in order to be ready to join Saragossa or Santiago quickly and to have the time to fortify at the same turn. Currently we have 6 spearmen in the two cities. So we will have 2 spear in Santiago and 1 spear at the NE tile of Santiago. Saragossa 1 spear and 2 spears on the road tiles.

Pamplona : send the 2 spears to Saragossa and change his production to Horseman.

Madrid : send spear to Pamplona and switch production to Archer

Barcelona send spear to Madrid

West warriors : to Santiago

North warriors : try to go to cut the ND iron....

But it's clear that such a situation would be very difficult to manage.

It's the main reason because we need that iron to build our offensive units ASAP.

Mylord, I assume that you are testing us, our courage and our intelligence. If we were gods, we could win in all the situations. I'm not sure that we are gods...

[astrologix]

Originally posted by Aidun
With the Royal Permmission of our Despot Augusto Togas the very last question before we vote:

Señores, assuming we are going to attack ND, what kind of units do you want to use for this attack, how many of each type and what are your arguments for the choice?

Aidun Cian

Señor Aidun,

It depends on if you desire a realistic answer or a unrealistic one.

In the first case (realistic), we need at least 30-50 turns to prepare a winner attack.

And in this case, no one can assure us that ND don't had found another cities on the jungle or in the lake valley at the north. For me it's not possible at the moment to figure out how the attack could be done to win.

In the second case (unrealistic), I would have NOW 15 swordman, 10 spearman and 10 Horses to knock out the Neu Demons in a short time. After destroying Marlowa with the Spear-Sword combo stack, I would walk on the jungle and mountains peeks until we were on the tile close to ND capital.
A few turns before that, our Horsemen horde, would run through the jungle and reach the lake valley in order to reach the mountains on the east of Neu Theben. These Horses, would pillage all the roads connecting Neu Theben from the rest of his country, leaving their capital at our mercy.

[ThePlagueRat]

Señores, assuming we are going to attack ND, what kind of units do you want to use for this attack, how many of each type and what are your arguments for the choice?

Mostly swordsmen and some ranged machinery (hopefully) for attacking cities. Also a mixture of horsmen and spearmen in the nearby areas where we can pillage, attack and seize strategic positions. I would count on using about 5 to 10 swordsmen per city, and up to 5 horsemen for raiding. Any lesser size is assumed insignificant and should be subject for reinforcements.

Assuming you are General of Spain and on our next turn we see a stack of 10 Neu Dem swordsmen south of Marlowa. What do you do? What are your orders?

I would also wish for a divine intervention, but I won't relay on it.
In such a terrible event, I would try to stay optimistic with respect to the morale of our men. Even though visions of our destiny would torment my soul.


The tactical situation:
The ND stack might just stick to moving South to make them unpredicatble. Near the river south of Marlowa, they can choose to be outside Saragossa or Pamplona by the next turn. They might also split, or go between to cut our road.

What we gotta do is to fill up both cities until we see where they are heading. Warriors must move North to santiago,
(only one will make it in time) and spearmen reinforcements must follow the road to Saragossa. I would have switched production in all cities to military already, and try to use the principle of deploying a stack of a maximum size in the vicinity near them. Also, the conscript warrior should try to cut their iron supply.

Assuming I was the Devil,
I think I would split, go in between and intercept the road, flanking Santiago from two sides... So I guess Santiago is the most probable target. We should station most troops there.

If they go for Saragossa, transfer all units from Santiago there.
If they go for Santiago, do the opposite. Well, ND can go back and forth, split, etc. making things confusing. But if they go in between, we cannot transfer anything and will have to pray and hope for a diplomatic solution.

[Aidun]

Originally posted by astrologix
Señor Aidun,

It depends on if you desire a realistic answer or a unrealistic one.

Astrologix, I want hear from you and the other two candidates a plan of how many units of each type you want to use. That means I do not want to hear things like: 'I wish I had 10 swordsmen, 10 horsemen and 5 spears'. We can all think out unrealistic plans that have no worth.
Just tell here how many units of what kind you want in your army when we attack ND. You are free to determine the amount of turns you need for this. I advise you howver not to make this amount of turns too large: the situation is one of a potential war and in such a situation it is better to be well prepared asap.

PlagueRat's short overview is an example, but don't forget to give arguments for your choice of amounts of unit-types. (see next post)

Aidun Cian

[Aidun]

Originally posted by ThePlagueRat
Mostly swordsmen and some ranged machinery (hopefully) for attacking cities. Also a mixture of horsmen and spearmen in the nearby areas where we can pillage, attack and seize strategic positions. I would count on using about 5 to 10 swordsmen per city, and up to 5 horsemen for raiding. Any lesser size is assumed insignificant and should be subject for reinforcements.

PlagueRat, you have forgotten some arguments: why mostly swordsmen? Why not more horsemen instead of swordsmen?

Please give write them down in addition.

Aidun Cian

[DAVOUT]

I would like to ask a question regarding Pamplona. If I intended to attack Spain, I would attack Pamplona first : this city has no natural defence, its conquest would cut Spain in two unconnected parts, and it is the most productive city.
My question is : until we have offensive units, what are your plans for the defense of Pamplona?

[LzPrst]

Assuming you are General of Spain and on our next turn we see a stack of 10 Neu Dem swordsmen south of Marlowa. What do you do? What are your orders?

After soiling myself I would throw as many spearmen as I could get my hands on against them in strategically important positions and have all cities build horsemen that could execute a counteroffensive.

Señores, assuming we are going to attack ND, what kind of units do you want to use for this attack, how many of each type and what are your arguments for the choice?

I would like to have a majority of horsemen.
I know this is a controversial strategy but I've tested it a few times (against the AI) and it does work.
Our warriors should be upgraded to swordsmen and we should have a few spearmen to seize tactically important positions.
Minimum: 10 horses, 5 swords, 5 spear. With this army a successful surprise raid on Neu Theben could be made.

To build this army would take something like 30 turns.
By then we might need more, I am uncertain. It all depends on how strongly ND defends their capital. An investigation before the planned declaration of war could help alot to determine whether we attack or wait a while longer.

until we have offensive units, what are your plans for the defense of Pamplona?

2 spearmen, a warrior in the jungle as scout. With roads we should be able to strengthen the garrison once we've spotted hostiles. Nema Problema

[Aidun]

For you too LzPrst: why horsemen? explain it in combination with your tactic for instance.

Aidun Cian