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    Survey: How to develop Spanish hegemony?

    Olá compadre! As always, the situation changes.
    Again it's time to discuss some long term strategies to enhance our power in this world.
    What do you think we ought to do now?


    Previous reports to comparison:
    (from a spanish survey, quite some turns ago)

    1. Moderate expansion: Balance military, settler, worker prod. = 31.25%
    2. I am scared! We need a much stronger military now. = 0.0%
    3. I want land, do expand! Build settler+spearman combo. = 50.00%
    4. Infrasructure now! Build more workers. = 18.75%
    5. Cultural influence now! Build a wonder and some city improvements. = 0.0%
    17
    1. Moderate expansion: Balance military, settler, worker prod.
    52.94%
    9
    2. Rapid expansion: no SEX for me, I like it fast.
    5.88%
    1
    3. Moderate Military : Balance military, achieve some culture too.
    11.76%
    2
    4. Hardcore Military: Build only defensive units now, until we can start offensive
    29.41%
    5
    5. Cultural influence: Start a wonder, and build more temples.
    0.00%
    0

    The poll is expired.

    Last edited by ThePlagueRat; February 26, 2003, 19:38.
    My words are backed with hard coconuts.
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    I fully and unconditionally support whatever the grand despot wants as I have become somewhat sentimentally attached to my head.

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    • #3
      Let our culture come a little later. First we must have the weapons to defend it, also we need a larger production base than our enemies = more cities.

      I'm afraid that we'll have to down-prioritize culture at the moment, but only until we have a proper defence.
      Diplogamer formerly known as LzPrst

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      • #4
        Which is the difference between moderate expansion and moderate military?
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        • #5
          The latter includes culture rather than settlers.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Thrumble
            I fully and unconditionally support whatever the grand despot wants as I have become somewhat sentimentally attached to my head.
            I warmly encourage all nobles to follow the example set by Thrumble.
            Statistical anomaly.
            The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

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            • #7
              Hardcore military : why does it include only defensive units ?
              Statistical anomaly.
              The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

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              • #8
                Don't care as long as it gets done, though I prefer military tactics to toppling cities with abstract concepts like culture
                "The dogmas of the quiet past are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty, and we must rise with the occasion. As our case is new, so we must think anew and act anew. We must disenthrall ourselves, and then we shall save our country." -- Abraham Lincoln

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                • #9
                  KILL KILL KILL

                  (does that make my sentiments clear - lots of warriors, to be upgraded. Drop science to 10% - a force of 15 swords marching through the jungle to the north is what I want to see).
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DAVOUT
                    Hardcore military : why does it include only defensive units ?
                    Sorry, It's a flaw. We can in fact build horsemen now.
                    It's just that I presume we built defensive units now,
                    until Madrid is capable of building the more nasty ones.
                    I know... That's not neccesarily the only option.
                    My words are backed with hard coconuts.

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                    • #11
                      HARDCORE MILITARY!

                      What? The wusses wussing out and picking Moderate Expansion?

                      Guess what? We're surrounded by 3--well, 2--threats and we need to beat their ***es back to the North, because we could use this great southern plain, and by the gods we will.

                      "Oh, but we can go moderate and still push them back."

                      Yeah? We can really go moderate if we know for sure of 5 swords running around from the Neubie threat and another whole nation of unknown, with the most specific information that we are close to equal to them? Can we still go moderate? The Luxians have been on the magic mushrooms, but without them they'd probably still just wet their pants and raze all thier land in front of this challenge.

                      We must rally the warriors to battle!

                      meet the new boss, same as the old boss

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                      • #12
                        I voted hardcore military. Let us first properly defend what we have before we start expanding. It costs us valuable time to build settlers while our military stays at a low level. I think that we should not prepare for war at this stage. I voted for this option with the idea of a short break in our expansion policy to get the military enlarged and updated and then continue the moderate expansion policy.

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                        back from his voyage to the land of Borc.
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                        • #13
                          Allright Aidun, but I don't think I can agree 100%.
                          What do you think of building one more settler prior to the hardcore military buildup? This is with the intention of building a city by the iron deposit. To have a serious attack force we need the iron. It would be quicker to build a colony, but IMO colonies are sort of wasted. In the longterm it's better to have one more city and the iron. So what is it gonna be?
                          My words are backed with hard coconuts.

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                          • #14
                            I would like to take the distinguishment of being the only one yet to vote for rapid expansion. I don't think we have to worry about ND for now, I would just like to expand so we can out-produce 'em in the war that will eventually come. Of course, moderate expansion does it for me too.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ThePlagueRat
                              Allright Aidun, but I don't think I can agree 100%.
                              What do you think of building one more settler prior to the hardcore military buildup? This is with the intention of building a city by the iron deposit. To have a serious attack force we need the iron. It would be quicker to build a colony, but IMO colonies are sort of wasted. In the longterm it's better to have one more city and the iron. So what is it gonna be?
                              One more settler is ok. Agreed, but let us then concentrate on military.

                              Aidun
                              "Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise can not see all ends." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring.
                              Term 9 and 10 Domestic Minister of the C3DG I., Term 8 Regional Governor of Old Persia in the C3DG and proud citizen of Apolyton. Royal Ambassador to Legoland in the C3 PTW DG, Foreign Affairs Minister and King of the United Kingdom in the MZO C3CDG and leader of the Monarchist Imperialist team. Moody Sir Aidun (The Impatient) of the Holy Templar Order in the C4BtSDG

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