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  • #16
    Originally posted by ruby_maser
    By my estimates, the present worker (working alone) could build a colony to the iron in 1150 BC (23 turns from now). It could connect it by road in 950 BC (31 turns from now).

    If Pamplona produced another worker as its next queue to assist with the task, a colony could be up in 1225 BC (20 turns from now) or the iron could be connected by road in 1125 BC (24 turns from now).

    Pamplona's next queue would most definitely then be a Settler that could reach site #9 (going by Arnelos' map in the Map Room) and have the new city founded in 1300 BC (17 turns from now) and would culturally control the iron prior to any road connecting it.
    Sorry ruby_maser, I don't understand you

    do you mean that Pamplona will change his current production (spearman) to settler and then to worker to help the present worker to connect the iron ?

    Could you please write down a time line ?
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    • #17
      if the settler is still several turns away I will build the colony
      We will have then a chance to discuss it again.
      Statistical anomaly.
      The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by DAVOUT
        We will have then a chance to discuss it again.
        I wouldn't be a good diplomat. I don't like to discuss the same thing several times...
        "Never trust a man who puts your profit before his own profit." - Grand Nagus Zek, Star Trek Deep Space Nine, episode 11
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        • #19
          Nobody knows what the situation will be in 15 or 20 turns, so it is not a matter of diplomacy but of realism.
          Statistical anomaly.
          The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

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          • #20
            If we are under a great deal of diplomatic pressure (a real threat) ,
            you should consider building that colony on the iron.

            However, we can have an effective mobile defence force by using horsemen.
            Please, try to use a settler if diplomacy goes well... we have so much land unsettled.
            My words are backed with hard coconuts.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by DAVOUT


              Even if you are right, which I do not believe, this is not a good argument.

              The current situation demonstrates that we cannot play fully our part on our continent without a strong military, particularly when your closest neighbour starts a crusade. We have to forget REX for a moment to build a military big enough to deter ND from attacking us.

              I fully agree with you DAVOUT.

              I don't want ND being informed by his Military Advisor for many turns away that our army is weaker than their.

              We must have a stronger military ASAP
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              • #22
                Originally posted by astrologix
                Sorry ruby_maser, I don't understand you
                do you mean that Pamplona will change his current production (spearman) to settler and then to worker to help the present worker to connect the iron ?
                Señor Astrologix,

                What I mean is to finish building the spearman and then begin either a settler or a worker. The spearman will be useful to serve as an escort for the settler when it is eventually built.

                The only question is in what order should the worker and settler be built after the spearman.

                In the quote of mine you posted, I estimated what our current worker can do by himself and compared it to what he could do if another worker was built by Pamplona first thing after the completion of the spearman.
                "The dogmas of the quiet past are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty, and we must rise with the occasion. As our case is new, so we must think anew and act anew. We must disenthrall ourselves, and then we shall save our country." -- Abraham Lincoln

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