Inventory of Claims Made by Each Team

[Arnelos]

PlagueRat,

My suspicion is that GhengisFarb might be cheating on his own w/o informing his own team that he is doing so. Because he is conducting negotiations with leaders from other teams, his team (much as we are doing) could dismiss the gathering of certain information as merely things he could have picked up from other teams in discussion.

Likewise, his statement of what luxuries we have was made to OUR team I believe in a private chat, not to his own team. Thus he might feel more free to use information he gained from illicit means because we honestly don't know what information he has come by honestly and what information he might have come by dishonestly and must assume it all to be honestly obtained.

Since this particular case is somewhat suspicious, we should watch for the accumulation of any other equally suspicious cases. If none other occur, it was probably something other than cheating. If a pattern of such suspicious cases develop, we have to seriously consider cheating as a very real possibility.

My point is that the leader of a team, who has direct influence on decision-making, could conceivably cheat, not let the rest of his team know about, and yet still have their team reap the rewards of cheating... since team policy would be based upon his increased knowledge base.

If such a cheater were to become cocky with that no-one seems to notice that he is cheating, however, that is where he leaves opportunity for him to be caught.

[Ninot]

I deplore the idea, but i know its quite possible

Ghengis could have, when he finished his very first turn, sent the save to us, but then played our first turn as well, as he could have entered "no password" when openning OUR save

after that, he could see our start position, and explore for the first turn only, cuz it would loop around to password protected saves before he could explore more for us.

but he could have seen our start position before we did.

[ThePlagueRat]

Someone on our team might as well have thoughtlessy slipped out a cue about 'a luxury' in a chat or something, for what we know? Eventually, GoW will know about these luxuries, and its not of strategical importence for them. So why this big deal?
Well, it's the principle... - To keep the homelands a secret.


Remember:
Everyones just gotta keep their mouths shut about terrain issues, out there.

[astrologix]

Re: Re: Inventory of Claims Made by Each Team

Originally posted by Togas

- Lux seems to have contact with Vox (confirmed)

Trip confirmed in chat on 1/27 that they had contact with Vox, and then Jon_Miller confirmed that they have contact with Lux.

How could this be possible ?

No one has Map Making yet, thus no one could build galleys.

If we assume that Legoland is on an island at the West of ND and GoW, and that Vox and GS are on a continent at the South of Legoland, I cant believe that Lux has direct contact with Vox.

IIRC, no one can give communications to other civs before Writing is owned. For me the only way the contact Lux-Vox were possible is that Legoland has already Writing and they have contact to Vox because their two landmass are very close each other (they can contact each other through units in their sight instead of landing from galleys). And that Lego and GoW are very close each-other too.

If this is true, Lego has sold his Vox contact to GoW and GoW has forwarded the contact to Lux.

Any thoughts ?

[Togas]

There are two ways that Lux may have contact with Vox.

1) Their "island" is actually connected to our continent somewhere in the north east. (unlikely)

2) Their "island" is close enough to our continent that a warrior on the shore of their land could see a warrior on the shore of our land. You can make contact with any units that you can see, even if you are not next to each other.

My guess is #2

--Togas

[astrologix]

Thank you Togas,

I dont remember very well the shape of our continents from the mini-maps. And I don't find the thread on it. Could anyone post here the right link, or repost the composed mini-map ?

[E_T]

We never got a mini-map from Vox. THey had only told us were they approxamately were at.

It seems now that IF we had Vox's mini-map, that we would have guessed that they could have made contact with Lux a lot sooner.

Eta Tamali

[Thrumble]

Originally posted by Togas
There are two ways that Lux may have contact with Vox.

1) Their "island" is actually connected to our continent somewhere in the north east. (unlikely)

2) Their "island" is close enough to our continent that a warrior on the shore of their land could see a warrior on the shore of our land. You can make contact with any units that you can see, even if you are not next to each other.

My guess is #2

--Togas

Didn't Vox mention an isthmus as some point in our dialogue with them? As we haven't seen the barbarian lands of the north ourselves it might still be possible for option #1.