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  • #1

    Pamplona's forecast options...

    Plan #1: Temple/Worker/Settler...

    Year / Size / Queue / Shields / Food / Gold / Notes

    2230.....4.....Settler.......21........0.......1/3/0
    2190.....4........."............26........4.......1/3/0
    2150.....2.....Temple.......0..........8.......1/2/0     Settler done; start Temple
    2110.....2........."............3..........13.....1/3/0 Road complete; one gold added
    2070.....2........."............6..........18.....1/3/0
    2030.....3........."............10........0.......1/3/0
    1990.....3........."............14........5.......1/3/0
    1950.....3........."............18........10.....1/3/0
    1910.....3........."............22........15.....1/3/0
    1870.....4........."............27........0.......1/4/0
    1830.....4.....Worker.......0..........4.......1/4/0 Temple done; start Worker
    1790.....4........."............5..........8.......1/4/0
    1765.....3.....Settler........0..........12.....1/3/0 Worker done; start Settler
    1740.....3........."............4..........17.....1/3/0
    1715.....4........."............9..........0.......1/4/0
    1690.....4........."............14........4.......1/4/0
    1665.....4........."............19........8.......1/4/0
    1640.....4........."............24........12.....1/4/0
    1615.....4........."............29........16.....1/4/0
    1590.....3.....Next?.........0...........0......1/3/0 Settler done; Start next Queue

    At this point the borders expand from the Temple

    Totals...
    Total Gold netted for Treasury = 20
    Total Gold netted for Research = 67
    Total Gold overall = 87
    (Don't Forget the temple will cost 1 gold though)

    Produced...
    2 settlers
    1 worker
    Temple (allowed city to expand to size 4 w/o disorder)

    Some notes...
    -- I believe the years are correct from when they change to 25 year increments, but don't hold me to it.
    --All these calculations assume no more tile improvements aside from the completion of the road the slaves are currently working on and no slider changes.
    --WF is typical for maximizing growth. If I recall Señor Tamali's WF chart number system....
    Size 2, city works WF#7 and #8 (the cow bonuses)
    Size 3, city works WF#2, #7, and #8 (due to corruption issues it makes more sense to use the shielded grassland rather than the forest. The shields are the same, but growth is maximized)
    Size 4, city works WF#2, #6, #7, #8 (basically what is it currently working)
    "The dogmas of the quiet past are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty, and we must rise with the occasion. As our case is new, so we must think anew and act anew. We must disenthrall ourselves, and then we shall save our country." -- Abraham Lincoln

    "Generations to come will scarce believe that such a one as this ever, in flesh and blood, walked upon this earth." -- Albert Einstein, in regards to Mohandis Gandhi
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  • #2
    Plan #2: Worker/Temple/Settler...

    Year / Size / Queue / Shields / Food / Gold / Notes

    2230.....4.....Settler........21........0......1/3/0
    2190.....4.........".............26........4......1/3/0
    2150.....2.....Worker........0..........8......1/2/0     Settler done; start Worker
    2110.....2........."............3..........13.....1/3/0 Road complete; one gold added
    2070.....2........."............6..........18.....1/3/0
    2030.....2.....Temple.......0..........0......1/3/0 Worker done; start Temple
    1990.....2........."............3..........5.......1/3/0
    1950.....2........."............6..........10.....1/3/0
    1910.....2........."............9..........15.....1/3/0
    1870.....3........."............13........0.......1/3/0
    1830.....3........."............17........5.......1/3/0
    1790.....3........."............21........10.....1/3/0
    1765.....3........."............26........15.....1/3/0
    1740.....4.....Settler........0..........0......1/4/0 Temple done; start Settler
    1715.....4........."............5..........4.......1/4/0
    1690.....4........."............10........8.......1/4/0
    1665.....4........."............15........12.....1/4/0
    1640.....4........."............20........16.....1/4/0
    1615.....5........."............25........0.......2/6/0
    1590.....3.....Next?.........0..........2.......1/5/0 Settler done; Start next Queue
    ..............................................5
    ..............................................10

    Totals...
    Total Gold netted for Treasury = 20 (no change)
    Total Gold netted for Research = 69
    Total Gold overall = 89 (if I got the corruption rates right )
    (Don't Forget the temple will cost 1 gold though)

    Produced...
    1 settlers
    1 worker (becomes available 7 turns sooner in this example)
    Temple (timed for right when the city needs it at size 4)

    Some notes...
    --We will need a second garrison in the city while it hovers at size 5 for a turn
    --Simply reverses the order of the worker and the temple. We get the worker seven turns faster, and the borders do not expand until 1515 BC.
    --All these calculations assume no more tile improvements aside from the completion of the road the slaves are currently working on and no slider changes.
    --WF is typical for maximizing growth. If I recall Señor Tamali's WF chart number system....
    Size 2, city works WF#7 and #8 (the cow bonuses)
    Size 3, city works WF#2, #7, and #8 (due to corruption issues it makes more sense to use the shielded grassland rather than the forest. The shields are the same, but growth is maximized)
    Size 4, city works WF#2, #6, #7, #8 (basically what is it currently working)
    Size 5, city works WF#2, #3, #6, #7, and #8 (Gold Mountain is worked for one turn at size 5 and then immediately for one turn at size 3 to re-sync the growth rate.
    "The dogmas of the quiet past are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty, and we must rise with the occasion. As our case is new, so we must think anew and act anew. We must disenthrall ourselves, and then we shall save our country." -- Abraham Lincoln

    "Generations to come will scarce believe that such a one as this ever, in flesh and blood, walked upon this earth." -- Albert Einstein, in regards to Mohandis Gandhi

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    • #3
      Plan #3: Settler/Spearman/Settler...

      In response to the growing threat of ND and GoW intrusion into cow valley, I have revised the forecast to get more cities up and running as soon as possible.

      This is the plan I will back if no one can gives a good reason otherwise. With ND's scout and GoW's warriors milling around, it is only a matter of time now until they begin to threaten our lands.

      This plan requires us to keep the conscripts in the city to prevent civil disorder at size 4.

      Year / Size / Queue / Shields / Food / Gold / Notes

      2230.....4.....Settler.......21........0.......1/3/0
      2190.....4........."............26........4.......1/3/0
      2150.....2.....Settler........0..........8......1/2/0       Settler done; start Settler
      2110.....2........."............3..........13.....1/3/0 Road complete; one gold added
      2070.....2........."............6..........18.....1/3/0
      2030.....3........."............10.........0......1/3/0
      1990.....3........."............14.........5......1/3/0
      1950.....3........."............18........10.....1/3/0
      1910.....3........."............22........15.....1/3/0
      1870.....4........."............27.........0......1/4/0
      1830.....2.....Spear.........0..........4......1/3/0 Settler done; start Spearman
      1790.....2........."............3..........9.......1/3/0
      1765.....2........."............6..........14.....1/3/0
      1740.....2........."............9..........19.....1/3/0
      1715.....3........."............13.........0......1/3/0
      1690.....3........."............17.........5......1/3/0
      1665.....3.....Settler........0.........10.....1/3/0 Spear done; start Settler
      1640.....3.........".............4.........15.....1/3/0
      1615.....4.........".............9..........0......1/4/0
      1590.....4.........".............14........4......1/4/0
      1565.....4.........".............19........8......1/4/0
      1540.....4.........".............24........12....1/4/0
      1515.....4.........".............29........16....1/4/0
      1490.....3.....Next............0..........0.....1/3/0 Settler done; start Next queue

      Totals...
      Total Gold netted for Treasury = 24
      Total Gold netted for Research = 77
      Total Gold overall = 101 (-19 to negate extra turns) = 82
      (Don't Forget the temple will cost 1 gold though. This plan is projected 4 turns longer to show thru settler's completion)

      Produced...
      2 settlers
      1 spearman

      Some notes...
      -- I believe the years are correct from when they change to 25 year increments, but don't hold me to it.
      --All these calculations assume no more tile improvements aside from the completion of the road the slaves are currently working on and no slider changes.
      --WF is typical for maximizing growth. If I recall Señor Tamali's WF chart number system....
      Size 2, city works WF#7 and #8 (the cow bonuses)
      Size 3, city works WF#2, #7, and #8 (due to corruption issues it makes more sense to use the shielded grassland rather than the forest. The shields are the same, but growth is maximized)
      Size 4, city works WF#2, #6, #7, #8 (basically what is it currently working)
      "The dogmas of the quiet past are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty, and we must rise with the occasion. As our case is new, so we must think anew and act anew. We must disenthrall ourselves, and then we shall save our country." -- Abraham Lincoln

      "Generations to come will scarce believe that such a one as this ever, in flesh and blood, walked upon this earth." -- Albert Einstein, in regards to Mohandis Gandhi

      Comment

      • #4
        I like #3 the best as we need Pamplona pumping out settlers, but I suspect that #1 or #2 might be better in the longer-term because having a temple will allow for fluctuation between pops 3 and 5 (or 4 and 6) rather than pops 1 and 3 (or 2 and 4).

        That said, it's critical enough to get TWO CITIES out of Pamplona ASAP to cover city sites #2 and #3 that it might very well be worth doing your plan #3.

        Since Madrid will be producing an extra 2 spearmen under the plan we've chosen for it, we'll even have some extra defense for those new cities

        This could work out...
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        • #5
          I agree. Once we get those border cities established I'm going to feel a WHOLE lot better about our Cow Valley settlements, as I think we all are.

          Max REX is the best short term policy for Pamplona.

          --Togas
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