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  • #16
    Madrid expedition : east
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    -Alfred de Musset

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    • #17
      I am currently (as in right now) working on a new possible plan for Madrid... I'll post it here if I have changed orders for Madrid.
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      • #18
        When the spearman is complete in Madrid, please switch Madrid to a barracks (placeholder). This should occur during the turn AFTER this next one.

        I've looked at the details and building the worker first only serves to shoot ourselves in the feet. Putting an improvement or more military units in between this spearman and that worker is definately the right move. It makes about 2-3 turns worth of difference in growth and production times, depending on how you tweak things after that decision.

        The question is what Madrid should build in between... I'm going to start a poll/discussion thread for this, as I'm interested what people think (and that's a good way to get their attention). Ultimately, Togas and I will make the decision... I just want to see arguments in favor of each option.

        This is why the barracks is placeholder.
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        • #19
          Results for 2270

          Moved TEG South of GoW warrior, saw more of the coast and some fish and verified that there is no landbridge to Legoland.

          Pamplona warriors moved SW, reveal more hills.

          Magyars moved N, no barbarians yet.

          Madrid moved E.

          Changed queue in Madrid to build barracks next.

          Moved Bulgers N towards Pamplona.

          ND scout in the HighLands on a mountain

          No other signifigant changes or news.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by oliverfa

            First: The new cities, closer to the border, can be defended easier by the core, more developed cities. Second, it will reduce corruption. What's the point about having lots of cities if you can't defend them and they produce almost nothing?
            Señor Oliver, form a certain point of view you are right.
            And these task will be done in time. (even a tunnel through the mountain to pamplona perhaps? )

            Ok, if we set in all our efforts on such infrastructure task now, and produce many workers for it, this will of course take less time and corruption be reduced. ok, thats nice but...

            Meanwhile:
            Someone elses, landhungry tribe, settles in the areas that we were planning to. And they might even get a foothold on the Westcoast or the unexplored area North of Madrid. (where we suspect there to be a lake)

            So its a matter of prioritizing strategies...
            My words are backed with hard coconuts.

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            • #21
              Ok, if we set in all our efforts on such infrastructure task now, and produce many workers for it, this will of course take less time and corruption be reduced. ok, thats nice but...
              Of course, I'm not talking about producing MANY workers or seting ALL our efforts in that. I'm just saying that we must find a compromise between the two extreme options. And this of course is not having a single worker. The Spanish empire needs more than that.

              Meanwhile:
              Someone elses, landhungry tribe, settles in the areas that we were planning to. And they might even get a foothold on the Westcoast or the unexplored area North of Madrid. (where we suspect there to be a lake)

              So its a matter of prioritizing strategies...
              Settling undefended and unconected cities is completely unuseful. They would be an easy target for our enemy nations. Yes, I consider all of them enemies. We shall try to be in good relations with all of them, but never trust in a word pronounced by a non spaniard. We must be prepared for the worst. If we found weak unconected and unprotected cities near their borders they will steal them from us. I have no doubt about that. We need roads for our army to protect all the spanish citizens! Without roads they will arrive just in time to pick the pieces of what's left!

              We need at least two more workers!
              "Never trust a man who puts your profit before his own profit." - Grand Nagus Zek, Star Trek Deep Space Nine, episode 11
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              • #22
                Your ideas, that I share, are progressing Oliverfa... but there are still some REX addicts to convince... You have observed that, except Lego who is alone, no other civ seems to be rexing.
                Statistical anomaly.
                The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by DAVOUT
                  You have observed that, except Lego who is alone, no other civ seems to be rexing.
                  Maybe they’re all too afraid. So let’s take advantage of the fears and REX

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                  • #24
                    I totally agree with that pikesfan.

                    Let us not be afraid to settle in the north either.
                    And let us build only the most neccessary defences now.
                    My words are backed with hard coconuts.

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