2430BC - Orders, Reports & Discussion

[E_T]

Feel Free to edit this first post, to consolidate the Orders

Eta Tamali

[E_T]

A few requests for this coming 2 turns:

1) Set the Pamplona build to something other than Settler until after Barcelona is built & the Hut is poped.

2) move the Maygar Expedition NE & NE (to the Wheat) but do not Pop the Hut until after Barcelona is built in 2 turns. After that, move him to the very end of Iwana Promatory (just named it), so that we can see as much of the Sea as is possible.

That's All I can think of for now. Thank You.

Letus Eta Tamali

[astrologix]

Astronicus Expedition (settler) : moves South.

[ruby_maser]

Originally posted by E_T
1) Set the Pamplona build to something other than Settler until after Barcelona is built & the Hut is poped.

You beat me to it One question though: can we do this the same turn we pop the hut?

Also for Pamplona, the garrison should be completed this turn and can be fortified. The conscripts in the city are then free to do whatever is needed. Maybe go mix it up with GoW.

Señor OliverFA slaves are to mine the second cow, but just to clarify could they mine FIRST, before roading.

[Hot Mustard]

2430 BC:
Magyar Warriors move NE
Pamplona Spearmen fortifies
Bulgar Warriors go to patrol the valley?
Pamplona Q set to Temple
Setter moves S

2390 BC:
Settler founds Barcelona
Magyar Warriors move SE to hut

[E_T]

Originally posted by ruby_maser

One question though: can we do this the same turn we pop the hut?

You need to have it set to something other than Settler, on the turn before, so that the Game will do the proper ramdom seed for the turn that you do pop the Hut.

It's only 1 turn, and can be changed back, just as soon as the Hut is pop'ed.

E_T

[Hot Mustard]

We got the save.

Once again, I took a look for events of importance.

First off, our Dometic Advisor warns us that our treasury is running dangerously low. This is because Lux accepted the Iron Working for Alphabet and 25 Gold trade. So the good news is that we have Iron Working. The bad news is that we now have only 1 Gold, and at the current slider rate, will lose -1 gold per turn.

We can move the slider down, or maybe work Gold Mtn to compensate. I think the slider is the better option, but I leave that to discussion.

Also, the GoW and ND units (Warrior, Scout) continue to move into our land, southwest. See this screenshot

Oh, and the Iron resources you can see in that shot are the only Iron south of the great jungle that we can currently see. With all the mtns, hills, around Madrid and Pamplona, I was hoping for one closer, but alas, there is none.

[ruby_maser]

Damn it! It is critically important that we resolve this issue among ourselves. I don't believe we have the ability to back up any threats we have made against GoW. And I some of the posts have been on the "threatening" end of the spectrum.

I'm posting this here as an alternative to threats, from the Diplomacy forum:

El Valle de los Toros represents the most arable land in the vicinity of the Spanish kingdom and, as so, also represents the most viable option for settlement in the near future. Scouting in the valley constitutes a knowledge of our homeland's defenses that we would prefer to avoid. We have made no such scouting expedition north of the jungle for that very reason and have also come to an understanding with Lux Invicta and Neu Demogyptica concerning this issue. As such, we would ask that you join us in friendship and respect and know that we shall extend you and your lands the same courtesy.

I don't think we have the ability or the stomach to follow through with threats at this point in the game, and I think they know this. Playing to their sensibilities is the only option at this point; if they don't buy into that, we should back off and let them explore.

[E_T]

Agreed. The problem is that it would reduce the value of our Map, when we do decide to sell it (and we get Map Making).

Eta Tamali

[DAVOUT]

Originally posted by ruby_maser

I don't think we have the ability or the stomach to follow through with threats at this point in the game, and I think they know this.

Yes, but we know as well that they will not send their military units beyond ND, leaving their cities undefended. Ghengis is testing our reactions, and we must not desappoint him.

[Togas]

Move TEG SW

Move Pamplona warriors SW

Adjust slider so that we have 0 or a positive income

--Togas

[Hot Mustard]

Any orders for the Bulgar Warriors, who are no longer needed in Pamplona? I was thinking of having them head NW, to patrol cow valley for further interlopers.

[Hot Mustard]

We also do not have orders for the Madrid Expedition. Moving W, onto the horses just outside ND borders would uncover a bit more of their terrain.

I have already moved TEG SW - there are Gems on the mountain NW of the ND Scout.

[Togas]

Move Madrid West

Move the Bulger Warriors NW twice.

[Hot Mustard]

Military Advisor

"There are Magyar tribes near Pamplona."

In light of this, I think we should keep the Bulgar Warriors in Pamplona for now.

Comparisons:
GoW, Lux - We are strong compared to them.
ND - We are average compared to them.