3600BC Report

[Hot Mustard]

Originally emailed by Togas
Follow TEG recs with the warrior. If no reccomendation, move him North East
along the mountain range for maximum view.

Move the new warrior to the hills SW of Madrid to give us a better view.

Keep warrior as the next item in queue.

If worker finishes, have him start on a road.

Thanks,

--Togas

T.E.G. Warrior moved NE - uncovered Silks!
New Warrior moved SW - nothing new uncovered.

F11 - Legopolis is now size 2 - they must have good river terrain and/or wheat next to their city. We are still 1st in 8 out of 13 demographics. There are three civs with strong early production (we are 4th).

Madrid will expand in 2 turns. What is the plan for the warrior? Is he to trigger the huts? Defend the city? Explore? We need a clear decision on this quickly.

Suggestions for the name of our new warriors?

Togas - I hope you don't mind my posting the instructions from your email, I like quoting the orders in these reports.

T.E.G. - I followed Togas' requested with respect to the warriors, as I didn't see anything specific in your thread. Btw, does PlagueRat officially represents T.E.G.?

See this thread for screenshots, save, but please keep turn discussion in here.

[ruby_maser]

Silks! They are in mess of jungle but would be accessible from a river city nearby.

A very good turn. Is the warrior in the queue a placeholder for a settler until we pop the good hut?

[Hot Mustard]

Originally posted by ruby_maser
Silks! They are in mess of jungle but would be accessible from a river city nearby.

A very good turn. Is the warrior in the queue a placeholder for a settler until we pop the good hut?

I suspect it is, but only Lord Togas knows for sure. I'm more concerned with how we are popping the hut, and where the warrior will be when it is done.

Who is in charge of overseeing our Foreign intelligence? Someone may be able to draw some conclusions from studying the changes in the F11 screens and the scores.

[DAVOUT]

Originally posted by dejon


I'm more concerned with how we are popping the hut, and where the warrior will be when it is done.

The hut must be opened by a warrior, not before a second warrior is in garrison in Madrid.

The difficult question is : do we wait until we have traded the very first techs, in order to get from the hut a more advanced tech (if we were to get a tech of course)?

[Hot Mustard]

Originally posted by DAVOUT
The hut must be opened by a warrior, not before a second warrior is in garrison in Madrid.

Sounds nice, but we don't have time. The city grows in 2 turns. Another warrior would take 4 turns. I think the best we can do is:

3550BC: Move the new warrior back into the city
3500BC: The city will pop the hut. We get whatever or barbarians emerge. If the latter, we fortify the warrior in Madrid.
3450BC: We defend Madrid from barbarians. The hill and fortification will aid in defense.

Any other ideas?

[DAVOUT]

Cultural expansion pop the hut as the settling does ?

[Hot Mustard]

Originally posted by DAVOUT
Cultural expansion pop the hut as the settling do ?

Unfortunately, yes.

[DAVOUT]

We must anticipate the worst case : 3 barbarians can kill a standard warrior. So, we must build the second warrior, because depending the tile where the barbarians would appear, he could have the final say.

[ruby_maser]

Originally posted by DAVOUT
We must anticipate the worst case : 3 barbarians can kill a standard warrior. So, we must build the second warrior, because depending the tile were the barbarians would appear, he could have the final say.

If worse comes to worse, having our warrior fortified in a city built in the hills and with the enemy attacking from the opposite side of a river give our warrior a defense strength of 2 (1 +.5 hills +.25 fortified +.25 river bonus) IIRC. The city has nothing to fear.

They wouldn't even attack the city probably since the barbarians now attack based on likelihood of success or failure. They do not think of the combined strength of all attacking at once. Our improvements might be at risk though.

[Hot Mustard]

Originally posted by ruby_maser


If worse comes to worse, having our warrior fortified in a city built in the hills and with the enemy attacking from the opposite side of a river give our warrior a defense strength of 2 (1 +.5 hills +.25 fortified +.25 river bonus) IIRC. The city has nothing to fear.

They wouldn't even attack the city probably since the barbarians now attack based on likelihood of success or failure. They do not think of the combined strength of all attacking at once. Our improvements might be at risk though.

Well presented. I thought the odds were stacked in our favour, but it's nice to see it put in numbers.

If a barbarian attempts to head for the wheat and worker, we should be able to attack it as it passes the city. Same thing for the roaded cattle pastures to the west, but we can wait until a barbarian is actually on it before attacking, as no worker is threatened.

[DAVOUT]

Originally posted by ruby_maser


If worse comes to worse, having our warrior fortified in a city built in the hills and with the enemy attacking from the opposite side of a river give our warrior a defense strength of 2 (1 +.5 hills +.25 fortified +.25 river bonus) IIRC. The city has nothing to fear.

Even small, the risk exist. Loosing the treasury (even small) and disrupting our production (even for a few turns) cannot be accepted. And if we want to protect our improvement (and we want), we need the second warrior.

At this stage, I would not take a chance out of ten. But our Supreme Despot is strong enough to take it !

[Hot Mustard]

Originally posted by DAVOUT
Even small, the risk exist. Loosing the treasury (even small) and disrupting our production (even for a few turns) cannot be accepted. And if we want to protect our improvement (and we want), we need the second warrior.

I agree with keeping the warrior in the queue until the hut result is known. If barbarians emerge, they'll still have 2 turns to complete. (3500BC) If the hut is something else, we can switch to settler. If we unleash barbarians, an assessment will have to be done of the threat level. How many are there? Are they N or NE of the hut (next to Madrid) or further away? I would only support leaving the warrior in the queue under the most dire threat. Our garrison warrior can mop up single threats on his own.

[Togas]

I am confident that Dejon has trained our Madrid home defense warriors and that should the Visigoths attack Madrid, they will be victorious.

We will keep them in the city in anticipation to see what the nearby barbarian village brings. I expect that we may change production in a few turns, but I await word from the Governor of Madrid on this issue.

--Togas

[Ninot]

Originally posted by Togas
We will keep them in the city in anticipation to see what the nearby barbarian village brings. I expect that we may change production in a few turns, but I await word from the Governor of Madrid on this issue.

--Togas

Scholars! What are my options?

In my old age, i need them explained well.

[ruby_maser]

Originally posted by Ninot
Scholars! What are my options?

settler or another warrior are the options, I believe.

A settler can be the next unit without any turn delays. However, there are some among us of feel that there is a risk of barbarians being unleashed when the borders expand and the goody hut is popped.