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**GodKing** · December 1, 2002, 20:52

do you really think they got 4 luxuries?
that's too strange...
they're taking the piss
I don't think so. that goes against how the game was programmed
it's impossible
The psychological warfare has begun, that's all.
this will be a very hard psyco war...
is astro still struggling?
i haven't received any news from him...
he still sitting out there like a kid in the corner
poor astrologix!
Hey, pikesfan is online.
let's hope he comes here
(and also invite him

)
will we play our turn if no leader (togas, arnelos, GK) shows up?
i guess no...
Arnelos doesn't have PTW, if I recall.
yes we are playing if they don't show up
i'm pretty sure arnelos has it
he wrote very interesting posts about the spanish civ's gameplay
Oh right - he's just away on vacation.
It was adaMada who doesn't have it.
hrm. If you do not have PtW, do this:
* Mrmitchel wishes they had PtW
(I have it)
wow!

wow wat? 4 lux? come to think of it theyre pulling our leg
no, wow to you wishing ptw and it comes right away

* OliverF yawns
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por fin!
at last!
aaaaaaaaaaaah
welcome Astrologix!!!!!
hi astrologix
welcome astro!
Yea!
hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
you've been gone long. Has your journey to the Promised Channel been difficult?

(You'd think he's our President)

this happens to you because you are telling strange things about onion lands...
what finally went right astro?
I choose All at the IRC Network list to Add apolyton.net

just as someone said...

yesssssssssssss
I said that!
i posted a link in the forum to an apolyton page which explains that
well, whats happening here ?
we are waiting for the sace
save
nothing
dejon will receive it and email to us
after all that :P
then we will take two hours to discuss it
well, if you'd like to get the save when we get it, give me an email addy.
and at last i will play
who'll play the turn ?
i will play
Slave Master Oliver
OliverF graciously volunteered.
it has a nice ring
ok oliverfa
you are the despot !!!!
no no
please don't tell it to Davout
he'll be controlling 100% of our units

I'm just being used for my North American based email.

I have been wondering what Grand Despot Togas would think of this...
what is the hold up with togas and arnelos? Turkey Day hangover?
wow! that's a great responsability...
so we are 7 at the moment
oliver, you should take some screenshots
that's 25% of the team
yes i will send the screenshots to everyone. tell me your email astrologix
nuclear passed through too
vmeierhans@bluewin.ch
ok got it
F-PRO was online early this morning, before things got going; adaMada checked the boards a few hours ago but didn't post; History Guy didn't know what IRC was; and pikesfan is online
jeez, for 1 turn at the first age, it's sure taking an eternity to cycle through the teams
in fact ada-mada was the one who oficially posted our name, description, etc
oh yes i remember that about History Guy

Sorry, didn't post about joining IRC or anything.
(adaMada)
well remember that 1 turn at ancient age is 50 years. I hope we are not roleplaying that...
sorry, adaMada
Yeah, we'll all be going through 2 generations of our families in 1 turn!
remember me the turn order please
that's right...say hello to Spamish Mitchell II

gathering storm, germans, glory of war, us, then i don't remember
to be honest i only remember that GoW is 3rd and we 4th
what is the situation right now, is the 3rd team up yet?
the vox controli, lux, and lego
no, still in the 2nd team (germans)
yes, the 2nd
it takes long.....
astrologix - added you to the distribution list.
I don't think I've got the staying power... I've got to do some things
fine, thanks

Oh yeah-Senor Dejon..
am i mistaken, that moving a settler, founding a city, and setting the queue takes a half hour?
You know how Senor Poupon lived from 4048 BC to 4000BC?
Well, firstly, how do we know that it is BC?
they have to poll about which square move to

That's fine, ruby_maser. Could you come back when you get the .sav email?
someone has said to me that there is a bug that sets level to Chieftain on PBEM games under 1.14f
Oh, yes, mrmitchel, I was waiting for someone to say that, and that I've probably got the life expectancy wrong.
we are under 1.14f?
probably not, I've got to go out of the house. I trust it will all go well though.
Secondly, I think, Senor Dejon, that you are aware that living 48 years in the BC timeperiod is some kind of record?

oh yes! WHICH version are we playing?
dejon are you sending the save to everyone regardless?
I think so, but i'm not sure
Oops, do I need to go download a patch?
I planned on sending to everyone here.
indeed i'm playing a pbem right now and it's at chieftain, but we agreed on regent
could you keep me on the list. I need to go but would like to look at it after the fact
perhaps you should ask notyoueither
I assumed everyone is using 1.14, but only OliverF HAS to.
We'd better alert Grand Despot Togas when he gets back
i guess this bug only matters for the player who created the game
Doesn't matter that much, does it? There's no AI.
yes but it's important for population happiness
i've got 1.04f
What will we research?
people get angry quicker at higher levels
dejon, you will keep me on the list anyway yes?
bronze working
if we don't have yet?
bronze working is what Togas mentioned I think
Yes, ruby_maser - I don't plan on taking anyone off.
where can i get 1.14f?
www.firaxis.com
is it at the firaxis web?
Oliver!!! You need to get 1.14f! (I think...which patch do we need?0
thanks firaxis or apolyton's mirror
Oliver, I'd get it from http://www.civilizationiii.com
should be under "patches" or something like that
oliver do you have an euro or US ptw?
ok i'll try to upgrade quickly!!!!
the patch doesn't work with the euro CD
oh crap
i'll upgrade and then tell you if the game works
if you bought it in the us it should be ok
we're still only on the 2nd team.
* Thud has quit IRC (Quit: )
it's a canadian copy
at least my friend bought it there
it will be ok then
i've asked on the patch on the apolyton chat
http://www.ina-support.com/faq/civ3ptwdownloads_pc.asp
geting it
2nd team is almost done!
2 minutes to download
great oliverfa
Ouch - dialup?
LAN
it's suposed
Hmm. oversea is slow, i guess
1 min now
tick tock tick tock
OK - Attention! Let's not forget we're the RolePlay team. Once we get the save, I propose all discussion should be RP. We will post a log of this chat on the forum, and should make our team proud!
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hello
yes, but no confidential things to public hears
we'll edit the log later
Oh, I meant to our forum, not the general one.
what did I miss?
but we'll have to send the real one to Great Leader Togas

mrmitchell - did your ghost see my proposal?
no
repeating...
Oliver--I think someone said the patch only matters with who started the game
I dunno
* Thud has joined #civ3rp
ops!
too late!
OK - Attention! Let's not forget we're the RolePlay team. Once we get the save, I propose all discussion should be RP. We will post a log of this chat our our forum, and it should make our team proud!
Hello Thud
Hi Thud
what did you do Oliver
hi again
hi thud
hi thud
it's getting upgraded now
ok dejon, sounds good
Well, are you with me, fellow RolePlayers?
sounds good
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notyoueither said that the game was starterd
with the 1.14 patch
game passed to 3rd team
the gerlans have finished their turn
germans

glups!
alright, fellas, I must be off. GL with the .sav
the game doesn't work now
i'll trying to apply the patch again
it says 'no cd'?
yes it says i have not the cd inside
I look forward to to being critical of every single choice :P
but the cd is in the drive
****. you have the euro cd bug
"what were you thinking?"

you have to reinstall everything
Which CD is in the drive? CivIII or PTW?
bye
PTW
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you'll be unable to play with 1.14
* Mrmitchel has quit IRC (Ping timeout)
i'm trying to reinstall the patch but i'm afraid you will have to play dejon

i can do it too if the save comes by within 1 hour
Hrm. Methinks me not veteran enough...
anyway i will try it until the save comes
mrmitchell has no luck with IRC today, eh?
in fact i don't know if version matters, maybe the saved game format is the same
ok i'll try adding the no-cd patch
is not very etical but i hope this will work
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I have landed!
oliverfa, i hope this works
did I miss anything
oliver has the euro cd bug, he can't patch to 1.14
oh no! terrible disastor!

wait a minute, he has the nocd patch
Going for the record for landings, mrmitchell?
Has someone confirmed that it's just the beginner of a game that has to have the patch?

where is it you can get the PtW 1.14 patch again?

**GodKing** · December 1, 2002, 20:54

http://www.ina-support.com/faq/civ3ptwdownloads_pc.asp
The German team is having difficulty getting their turn played...
no, they're done
thanks God
Sorry, Flash's team
oh
i need time
Is the 2nd or 3rd team playing?
3rd
we're next
oh
pikesfan and ThePlagueRat are lurking...
has 3rd just begun, or have they been playing for a while
Just starting, actually having difficulty starting, I think
why?
Eli was going to do, and had to go, then he couldn't get a successor into their private chat, and now Flash is finally back, but doesn't yet have the save.
hrm
Or some such madness - hard to make sense with all the traffic
Well, have we decided what to do with the Worker?
the nocd crack doesn't work well
Hard to do before we see that start location.
I suggest we rename it Togas's Slaves in honor of our Grand Despot
well, the first was to irrigate a bonus tile if exisiting
oliverfa, what's the problem ?
True, Dejon, but we could figure out what to do for several of the most likely situations before seeing the save

the no-cd patch seems to be incomplete
why ?
well you know this places are not very reliable
I have a temporary solution for the lack of image posting problem. Go here for a sample: http://members.rogers.com/dejon/ForeignAdvisor.jpg
glory of war says they are finishing their turn soon...
hey, can someone make a screenshot too?
I'll post any required screenshots up like that for now, and put links in forum posts.
(of the start location)
thanks
OliverF - no go?
nope
that's strange
it's a canadian cd
OK, now who? Astrologix? Thud?
i dont have ptw yet
Crousto?
yes?
Could you play the turn?
1.14 up and running?
i guess
Cant Dejon play?
haven't tried screenshots though
I could, I suppose.
:'(
It says I've got another 30 minutes left on 1.14

Thud? You're an SMC in another game.
Does Thud have PtW 1.14
?
I believe he does.
did you already get the save dejon?
Not yet.
i have PTW
dejon are you able to make screenshots ?
and i am SMC in the single playe civ3 demgame
but not the patch
Yes, I can take shots of anything we
'd like
dejon, you should play the game
But I'm not the 'Poly veteran that others here are, so I'd give way to any other that'd like to play it
I'd just probably just need a screen of the start loc.
And I look like a Poly vet?

the first turn is simple I guess
i'm not a poly vet either
yes
i have to go for awhile anyway. it should'nt be too hard dejon. good luck all.
Got the save - what's it to be?
I guess I could, as soon as the patch gets dl-ing in 25 minutes
we only have to choose where to move to worker and if build or not the city
you can describe us the situation and send us a screenshot
What do you mean 'got the save'?
send it to us
mrmitchell1984@hotmail.com
I say we build our grand capitol where the gods have determined our ancestral home to be.
Fare Well.
(and post a screen too if you can please)
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bye thud
too late.....
Sending to distribution list now...
great

I agree with Thud, despite that he called the spirits these "god" things.
I will check my email in a few minutes
got it

GodKing is on the 'poly chat!!!!!
lol, just on time

i got the dome sav
at last!

so he is going to play
isn't he?
GodKing has arrived!!! The spirits are thanked for their blessing to Spain!
ok can someone take an screenshot of our start position meanwhile?

Talk about last minute!
indeed, this arrival just on time can't be anything else than a divine intervention
i agree with you crousto
yes, the gods are on our side
let's hope so
ag!
GK has left!
what ?
Gods? What is this "God" blasphemy? (Is that right) We only worship our ancestors' spirits.
he must be trying to join the channel, wait for a moment
well, SpiritKing as arrived

From what I saw, Togas will join us around 9pm EST, that is about 4 hours from this post.
Togas never asked me to take over, so I am/was not planning on doing such.
By my understanding, each team is only going to play one turn, and that is it. Thanks.
sorry, but in our former lands some spirits were gods
that's what GK has said at out fourm
by the way. hoe is the situation? can someone send an screenshot? my game copy still doesn't work

dejon, a screenshot, please
yes, can you post a screen?
(oh yeah, I got your email

)
just send it to us by mail it will be quicker
http://members.rogers.com/dejon/StartingLocation.jpg
I'm still downloading the 1.14...thanks
not too bad...
ok i see
Only 14 min to go on 1.14... argh

fine, i got it
oh we have a village nearby!
which is the chance that if we pick it it will be a barbarian one?
it will pop up when we'll found the city
yes that's right
i don't know if it CAN release barbarians this way
i think, we should build madrid at that place
i've never seen that
Well, we've got a lot of trees in the way, but there is a hut of friendly uncivilized barbarians nearby.
our first conquest
it looks like a good place
Where did GK go?
Question: I can't remember about this, but are we connected to the water and able to build ships and all that with that location?
i don't know. he just disapeared
yes we can
from that location i think that we can build ships
He is online according the member list.
Yes, definite Harbor location
He's probably trying to get in the channel
yes and we have two hills
yes, mrmitchel
i say : build city, move worker north
i can't see anything better to do
i agree crousto
If we build city, we can see more.
Then decide on the worker
at least let's build the city
yes but we have to mine the north tile because it has an extra shield
and the see again what's happening
i agree crousto
We landed in a good part of the world...close, but not too close, to the equator
Crousto, I agree, but there may be a lux in another direction.
just build the city and then we decide
who is playing?
doesn't matter, mining a first tile is more important than lux
WHOA!!!!!
dejon, no matter
RolePlay starts now!
what ?
What is it causing your excitement, Senor dejon?
ok, let's become a civilization in this very moment
Now, i am Astronicus
I'm just excited to be founding a city, Señor Mitchell!
* mrmitchell is now known as Spamish
What an honour, SEnor Dejon
oh yes! a city! what's that? like a big cave?
Many mud-huts all in one place!
It's like a dream
the promised land!
yes, let's send the slaves to work
[OOC]It looks like, from my looking at the extreme edge of the darkness, we are pretty much surrounded by Plains - that's all the OOCing I'll try to do :P /OOC
before i'd like to see a picture of the city...
we are sorrounded by holly trees
I have never seen such an assembly of mud huts!
I hope there's good rocks in those hills for weapons!
Unbelievable!
GK says he cannot connect

Let's have a vote then - shall we place our families here - for the good of our people, and under the guidance of the Esteemed Señor Togas?
yes!
i vote : yes
yes!
[ooc]Wait...this is despotism...we can't vote![/ooc]
yes
we don't vote, we decide in behalf of all the tribe without even asking them

Grand Despot Togas would be proud!
it's ....... a tribal agreement
hug, hug
Well, Dejon is the strongest member of the tribe. He can beat the #**&@ crap out of anyone who disagrees.

Well, this is true...
yes, please be kind with us señor dejon

Now I can see why the other tribes took so long...
ok dejon, let's found the city
yes do it. found teh ciuty
OOC: I thought we did... /OOC
and send the next screensh... err painting to us
What shall we name this new "city"?
we don't want to last another hour

OOC and send us a screenshot /OOC
Madrid of course
Madrid
this was discused in the forums and Togas stated he wanted it to be madrid
yes, Madrid
Why do not we name it Togasville, or something of the sort, to honor our Grand Despot Togas?
I'd like to get Senor GodKing in here before we "settle".
anyway we can rename it later
Oh, okay, if Grand Despot Togas wants it to be Madrid, then Madrid it shall be.
let's name it Madird now
Madird? What city is Madird?

it's the ancient name for Madrid :P
* astrologi is now known as Astronicus
is it founded yet?
he's helping Godking
Oliver is anxious to get to controlling the slaves

yes yes!
i want to shout some orders!

Anyone else have ideas for Gk to try to get in here? he's on the general IRC
Oliver, have you considered renaming it "Togas's Slaves" or something of the sort? He is our Grand Despot, he needs some recognition.

OOC: Does GK know what the pass is? /OOC
GK it's trying to enter
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yes. I think that Toga's Salves it's the best name

dejon, did you set a password to the game ?
hi
hi gk
made it!!!!
YEA!
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Senor Godking(?) has made it!!!
welcome señor GodKing!
OOC: GK - give me an email addy and I'll send you the save if you like.
Oh i have double personality!
Greatings and salutations
hi
ok. Godking@prodigy.net
Senor Godking, was your journey to Madrid (our name for our newfounded "city") a difficult one?
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more than you might think.
it snowed
about 16 inches worth
my god !
wow!
happy turkey day one and all
That's odd, for our climate! Did you come from the north, where snows are said to be more often!
can i command the slaves now?
there's a lot of snow in the pyrenees
OOC: Email sent, GK. Did you want to play it?
the mountains to the north
ok. I am downloading the patch. I will look at the save in about 5 minutes
you go ahead and play.
dejon did you a screenshot of Madrid ?
we have a screenshot here : http://members.rogers.com/dejon/StartingLocation.jpg
look here Señor GK http://members.rogers.com/dejon/StartingLocation.jpg
XD
downloading the screenchot now.
Señor GodKing - can we get your vote on the approval of founding Madrid where we are?
Senor Dejon, could you show us a painting of the lands we see after founding our magnificent city?
And what of the barbarian tribe that was next to us? Are they peaceful?
Patience, Spamish.

yes Señor Dejon, can we look at it?
They MUST be peaceful !
if they are not then we MUST restart
If we open it with the city radii, they have to be.
Ah, yes. Patience is a virtue. Hey...I could write a book full of those sayings!
i guess i'm not too virtuous

OK. After looking at the picture, found our city here.
With so few of España present - I'd like to have total consensus on settling where we are - GK - you're the last vote.
OK!
the city radii will open up the goodie hut.
we are very few here because we are roleplaying a dictatorship

http://members.rogers.com/dejon/MadridSettled.jpg
what did you get in the hut?
WOW !
Thank you for your paintings, Senor Dejon. They are most appreciated.
what was the hut?
send the worker to the shielded grassland, and lets build some roads please!!!

what do you think about that issue? fellow tribesmen?
we have some close desert tiles at the North
I propose that we call the desert to the north the "GK's Journey", for he must have had to go through there if it took so long.
The hut produced no message at all.
i agree with Spamish
OOC: What???
no message? very strange
does it means they were barbarian?
What? no message? OH ****
no
it means it was a research
new tech
Oops, sorry. There didn't appear to be anyone in those mud-huts...
sometime huts doesn't do anything, but it should shows a message?
sorry, some desertic lands...
but we could not use it as we have no city yet...
crap
oh...

OOC: When huts dont do anything, they say the hut is abandone
d
could you check the science screen dejon?
ok... is anyone oposed to the idea of selling Togas'Slaves to the shielded grassland?
Señor Oliver, Master of the slaves, what do you wish to do with our humble servant?
if we restart, and it must be unanimous to do so, we can move the worker into it first to try and get a unit instead
mmmmmmmmmm
well if we know that it is a tech
i think that geting it with the worker would be a good idea
Señor Oliver I thin our slave should do as you wish
Our wise men tell me that we know Alphabet and Cerimonial Burial
don't forget to move the science slider
20%
or do we wish to be a leader?
why don't we do that? that way we can have another tech
and keep it at 50%
argh this is a very important matter, we should have discussed it before
yes keep it at 50 %
OOC: Folly! 100%! Just kidding, I usually set it as high as it can go while still leaving a surplus. /OOC
what is our income?
+1
OOC: It doesn't make any impact on the first turn, really
we have 35 gold
35 gold? then the hut was gold
yes
Wait - yes - 35 gold!
Could you tell me in which square of land owned by Madrid is being worked on by our labourers? (citizen, not workerunit)
Then we got 25, right?
OK. the hut was gold. So be it. No use starting over.
i think we should grow as soon as posible, so go for the grassland
what do you think?
the shielded grassland of course
Señor Dejon, coud we have a picture of the citizens of Madrid ?
the shielded grass, start on a road, then discussion can occure about irrigation or mine
yes but this will be next turn
Our glorius city is on grassland (2/1/3).
We need roads to where our labourers are working. Of course we put a road on this grassland which is said to have minerals for sheilds.
ok. move the slaves to the nord
next time we will start working on that land
And remember to rename them "Togas's Slaves!"
and we will decide road or not
(that does not use up a turn does it?)
we cannot road this turn....
yes, our turn is over
all used up in movement
http://members.rogers.com/dejon/InsideMadrid.jpg
what are we researching?
bronze?
Well, let's go ahead and decide to road during the next 50 years.
oh that's true
what are we researching?
I would prefer going for the Great Library first thing....
In accordance to Senor Togas' desires (I believe), we are researching Bronze Working - which delights me!
j/k ?

**GodKing** · December 1, 2002, 20:55

then we can ignore science for a while.
well fellow tribesmen i have to go (it's almost midnight here) see you on the forums tomorrow, and move the worker to the nord
but i would also go for the GL
OK, Senor Oliver, north it is.
well. have a nice time!
OOC : Dejon what's our passsword for th egame ? /OOC
bye Oliverfa
bye oliverfa
bye
OOC: How do I set a password?
when you started the turn
when you started
Oh, crap - I loaded it Wrong!
PTW don't asked you ?
Nope.
strange...
how did you load it? from the start screen?
did you start from an already open copy of PTW?
Disaster! Oh no! Not this early in the history of Spain!
you can reload...
it has to be opened from the start screen or else there are problems
OK, I'm opening through MP now, and it is asking for a nick...
El Reina?
Togas
just an idea
something we will remember
OK, that's easier to remember
I think that's what Grand Despot Togas would put...I dunno.
errr i just opened it and i see a completely different starting position...
shouldn't be simply Load Game ?
can someone else check?
not trhough the Multiplayer button ?
OK... I will load it in a minute
no, through the title screen
What's the title screen ?
the first one
with new game. tutorial, hall of fame and so on
ok, but Load game button ?
you can't see 'load game' on the title screen???
I mean we must choose the Load Game button to open the game or the Multiplayer button ?
Asdf Jkl; Qwert Yuiop!
load game
I went with Load Game from the 1st screen before.
am trying to open it now
do we open from the title screen (right after the intro movie)
didn't you launch civ3 instead of ptw?
Now I am in Multiplayer lobby, hit location to Local, then what?
If so, you should be asked for a password
ok. I'm back
don't go to the multiplayer lobby
and oh yeah-I got 1.14
just hit 'load game' from the 1st screen after the intro movie
ok, am trying
I did that before - I wasn't prompted for a password.
****... I cannot see what is occuring here, I forgot it does that when I load up civ. Our initial start with eth goodie hut was not us. I have a screen with two cows.
we should ask the others teams
I will be back and reconnect
bye for about 3 minutes
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strange thing is that we can't see the player's list on your screenshots
usually there is one in pbem games
you are right crousto
i can't understand what happened if you load it right
okay, mine asked for a password
Oh, HANG ON - I think I know what happened...
maybe the save from glory of war was wrong...
what now?
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I am back
GK, mine asked for a password
enter migros as password, like this room's one
so did mine.
did you see a lot of hills?
I have a dear to the south, and a cow to the east
and sea to the east
Got it working now...
Isabella (player 4) it is your turn to move
hills to the north
deer to the south, cow to the west
And we're on a rive
r
ok, screenshot please...
I cannot do chat and civ at the same time. my computer will not let me.
http://members.rogers.com/dejon/PW.jpg
OMG - I am stupid!!!
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what now, Dejon?
was it the first team's start we saw?
I loaded a test save from a Spanish game of mine - not the warmonger one.
oooops.
oh well
life goes on
oh well, it happens to the best ones

Sorry, everyone.
So what happened?
What shall the PW be?
Migros
Did Dejon just accidentally load a SP game?
i say togas
* dejon looks sheepish
we can all remember Togas
No, too easy. We can PM or private forum-tell Togas that it is Migros.
no, others could guess togas
but so can every other team!
use migros
works for me.
yes mgros
Or heck, we could have a locked thread in the forum simply titled "Migros."
migros
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I mean, closed thread
that is topped
Hi Nuclear
hi nuclear
hi nuclear
Ah! Hello again, fellow spaniards!
hi
So, now that GK is available can GK play the turn?
Or is Dejon still?
What has been decided?
OK - let's try this again - http://members.rogers.com/dejon/StartingLocation.jpg
Well, nothing-Dejon accidentally loaded one of his own SP games. No trouble though

MUCH better position too!
let dejon still
it's still the old screenshot dejon
huh? Dejon, your new link still has the old screen
maybe emptying the cache would help
old screen shot
So this means that the starting location in the forum is wrong one, eh?
hmm. - oh, ftp disconnect, hang on.
link in forum will be updated, used the same filename.
yep. sorry NW, but we have a better one
nope, still same screen.
same screen
same OLD screen
I'll bet the other teams are getting angry, wondering "WTF are those RPers doing!!!"
OK - uploaded.
This one is very good! Forests and hills, and even grassland for our children!
Okay, Senor Dejon, it works now
no, looks like they're talking about something else in the public chat
Yes. this is the one.
Let em think we are roleplaying and stuff...
Sorry everyone - that's what you get when you let the muscled brutes do the work!

oh, yeah
Well, at least we're letting the muscled brutes learn

I say we set out city 1 move SE, so we are on the ocean as well as the river
how to work it

So the one with the hills is the right one, eh?
Yep
One SE cuts us off from the shielded grassland
at least at first
let the worker explore this tile
City location is first priority. Lets decide this first shall we.
But,wait, if we settle south we will lose theshielded grass
we still have the deer and the cow
deer?
and lots of river
deer = game
yes, move SE is ok for me
I think that tile SW of the proposed SE city site is forested Grassland, but I cannot be sure
looks like a hill to me
Saw no deer in the screen
due south
and send worker on the cow
of our current position
not southwest, but South of SE
of the new postiion.
I think the actual tile is better for grow
"the current tile"
What about moving the worker to see more?
yes, but we loose the ocean access, and have no port or other improvements with all the ocean squares in the later parts of the game
So we've got a choice: SE for ocean+production, or here for food+production.
there are two hills SE
What about straight South?
long term, move SE. Short term, here or west one
um...why straight south?
Best tile around.
leave it at it is
long term is more important : SE
for protection, one SW onto the hill
Remember, SE is on a river (oh yeah, so is here. nevermind)
We're on a hill already
I vote for 1 SE
i vote SE too
I guess were we are is pretty nice...
ther are two hills on the two darked tiles on SE
SE will give our best city access to the ocean which equals galleys which equals finding more civs (if this is a continent or archipelago.)
I agree with nuclearis
I like the Harbor spot.
vote, se = 1, here = 2
1
we could found another city later on the ocean
2
SE is the tile bordering the ocean (NOT the cow), right?
yes
just making sure...
correct, it is one south of the cow
SE is the forested plains.
So we're just going to move to the plain old forested plains bordering ocean, right?
Think about it, we have defense of hills against warmonmongering rushes, we have lots of nearby hills to improve prod, while we still have good food growth
oops, ment sw of the cow
okay, that got me a little worried there. thanks for the clarification GK
we can do our second city seaside...
If we move SE, we'll have 4 initial shields.
Ok, I'm going to vote SE, except can someone tell me one good reason to found here?
But i think that if we don´t move, we will have access to a shielded grassland when we grow
true...
more food, better growth
defense. On a hill it provides 50% bonus IIRC
If we stay where we are, we have 5 hills in initial area out of 9 tiles.
thats a lot of hills, though
And this should improve production
We also have better access to grass lands inland
there are grasslands inland...
if we move, the ocean squares become better
yes, but I am still allured by the looks of the ocean...
So maybe we should move the worked NW to check things out?
and we have a good chance of starting with iron were we are, and later even coal!
(It doesn't look like just a puddle, if you will view the extreme east of our knowlege of the world)
well, at least one grass with a shield and one desert
Good point NW
could we move the worker please ?
to NW
Also, the desert could latter bring oil(Ok, this one is very unlikely
There's no luxuries to take priority for the worker...
but that is away from the cow, and where we would like to have it work first.
Let´s move it toward the game, so we will see both what´s with the cow and the game!
Hmm. You know what - they're both good spots. I'll go with the majority. VOTE!
NW, we will already have access to the desert no matter where we build probably by the point oil comes around.
So you're saying I should pull out the magic coin to flip?
or saltpeater
saltpeter might appear in the hills
ok, lets vote now
By the time saltpeter and oil are around, we'll have access to all the known world anyway.
And were we are we have lots of ´em
I still vote SE. I will however go with the majority... that what this is all about
I'll go with the majority.
Can someone find a Togas quote that says he wants to research Bronze Working?
ack.
i vote SE
I vote current tile
I mean, I might go with the majority.
Let´s move the worker. I vote for moving it to the game
found it. Bronze is what he expects us to have first
2 SE, 1 here, 1 worker-mover
And he wants bronze first it is in the technogy post
If we move the working to see more, it should be to a hill, no?
Thanks.
* Spamish wishes Grand Despot Togas was here to sort things out
North of our actual hills there is only forest´ngrass
let´s move it to the deer
Why can't we move the worker SW?
1st: Is everyone in favour of moving the worker to see more?
Don't they see 2 tiles from hill?
ok, aouthwest is a good one.
I think the current position is well balanced for growth and shields
Or is the 2 tiles obscured by forest?
i'd send the worker to the cow first
mean southwest
I don't like moving the worker...... but will accept it
Yes Astro, but we can go SE and get more of a production orientied thing but with ocean.
Hmm. Not enough people here to carry any idea forward.
moving the worker is good as he will be up to no good this turn if we don´t move the setler
Okay, vote "Yea" to use the worker as an explorer.

yea
Then we can decide where to move it.
yea
yea
3 out of 6...
and GK saying he'll accept it...
voilla!
MAy the move begin!
ah, but how many want the city where we are, or will accept it?
and where are we going to move it?
move it south
I thought we were moving it SW
i mean, follow the river way south
SW, on the hill it will see more
yes SW
so SW?
ok for SW
and we just put the Settler on "Wait."
but we need to see if it is worth delaying city building more or no moving it toward the sea
Se
SE
wait a minute!!!
move the worker SW. Post new screen shot. Then we vote on build city here, or move one SE
yes, let's move the worker SW, okay?
Ok,
Am moving it.
How many wanted the city the where we are?
2 I think
Moving SE is bad. There are hills and we can't see beyond these
with 3 for moving it to the SE
wait a minute...
let´s see how things fare...
I'd go with where we are.
maybe we shouldve moved it south, I guess the forest obscures vision even from hills
oh well
now wait up!
Wouldn't we like to report the founding of Madrid to the team today?
move SW
Also that...
not if it means settling on a lesser location
Report: Oh, well, we just walked around a bit...

But the main priority is having a good place, but this is a good place
.... *ansiety*
I think moving madrid to the SE will work better for us in the long term.
They're both good. Yes, we can argue endlessly about which is better, but they're both good.
Why ?
have u got the screenshot?
Immediately, we will get (I think) 4food.3prod.2gold from the current tile.
If I fail to convert you, at least I will have some good RP stuff
no. we will probably have the cow. No shield, 3 food.
Let found another city later ba the ocean
MAn, hills are defense, and if togas said to research BW first, this means he wants defense
If we go SE, 3food, 4prod, 2 gold
we're splitting hairs.
has anybody moved the worker?
I haven't
wait...if we go SE, we'll get 4food,3prod,2gold.
oops, I moved the worker...
you can move it, we voted for it
* dejon is not surprised
Moved toward were?
I thought we were going to. Then again, I'm not the one playing the official

dont worry spam. it is not the official save.
SW. Don't do it.
nothing new
?
? what?
so move SE
se - worker or settler?
SE is 4food,3prod,2gold.
We should not do this again... this is Illegal :b
or no, I forgot to count-are we getting a city gold bonus
?
Se worker
Señor Spamish, are you telling us that your family came from that direction? ...
I mean, a city center gold bonus?
uh, yeah.
sure.
we should. But that will be the same for wherever we set up shop
Were we are stler
we are what?
Sorry, it's late in Switzerland, i must leave now...
I mean settle were we are
Thanks. Bye
same for me
Bye, Thanks.
bye, thanks
I prefer the current tile
no! Wait till we vote on the settler!
What's your preferences?
Dont' move the settler
did you move the worker SW?
for the last time...do we get any city tile commerce bonuses!!! I can't remember, tell me!
YES
found there....
Bye
Adios Señor!
spam the tile bonus is the same for wherever we settle.
Adios !
* Astronicus has left #civ3rp
bye
ok, so it doesn't matter. my bad

Before we vote, a recap:
Ah it´s good to be behind greenwich

Immediate on current is (assuming we place the labourer on the deer): 4food.3prod.2gold.
I moved north and founded Madrid! (Just Kidding)

**GodKing** · December 1, 2002, 20:56

8-)
Immediate on SE is (assuming we place the labourer on the deer): 4food.3prod.2gold. WITH access to ocean.
Thank the spirits you did not do it!
However, settling on current gives us 1 tile closer access to the inland terrains.
I can live with either site - just pick one! The more I think about it, the less in favour of moving the working I am.
the main difference is access to the ocean, or later on access to the shielded grassland.
Now quickly, vote it!
Yea or nay!
move
why not move the worker?
move settler SE
I mean, scrap the yea or nay thing. Just vote "current" or "SE".
why not move him if we can?
SE
for city you mean?
yes, for city!
city current, worker SE
If we move the worker, and the settler, we've accomplished ZIP.
we want to show the people some work! Found the city
Well, Dejon didn't move the worker, did he?
No.
Good
I say move the worker to the cows
GK!!!
i agree with GK
Agree with GK
Move the the Cows - good idea!
so go for it
OK, moving worker to the moos.
cows give 3 food. we want that to grow. Sooner roads and mines, better we are.
the city is not on the river when you move it to the cows!
that leaves us at 1gold less!
we are not talking the city. Only the worker.
Oh, thank god
Er, excuse me, thank the spirits
you spammer are blaspheming a lot these days, huh?
http://members.rogers.com/dejon/ToTheCows.jpg
the city we are still debating. I advocate moving SE. NW likes where we are.
So, we are moving the city SE, and the worker W? Then we've done zip, like Dejon said.
We are on an excelent place, for all ocasions, lets stay here!
I vote we found Madrid!
no. It is not zip. It is providing us with a good location.
(where we are)
lets do it quick, we're getting the worst reputation ever in the public chat

Well, the tiles are immediately the same, except that SE has ocean access!
(I will kick myself if I discover we just find a pond

)
OK. Quick vote. MOve SE=1, stay here + 2
1
1
MapMaking is awhile away, we can build a coastal town next.
move SE
2
2
wait a minute...Dejon's right. I'm holding my vote until everyone else votes
Okay, that's everyone!
3 for each. Dejon, flip a coin
3 for each? we're 5

GK, learn to count

plus astronomicus vote for staying her
astro said before he left, he want it here
Yes, it is tied.
ah ok
dejon, that coin please.
Shall I flip my Canadian loonie (dollar coin)?
spamish, join us!
Okay, I'm gonna switch to saying stay here. We need to show the people we can get some work done.
or, I have one, pick heads or tails.
i have a double-headed quarter if you need it

now its 4 to 3
We have a switch - decision made!
Thank Lord!
OK. That is now settled. Found madrid here.
Yahhooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!111
Nuclear!!! you need to count too! 4+3=7 is larger than 5!

Oh, you're going to be happy.....
Well, at leat we've got that over with.
ok, i'll leave now it's 1AM here
I think we could be better, but it will do.
bye
Bye!
don't forget to send it to betahound next
Senor Dejon, can you post a painting?
his mail is brucehynes57@rogers.com
bye
change science, and set research to BW befor you save
(I think) Grand Despot Togas would be proud
http://members.rogers.com/dejon/MadridSettled.jpg
hit end turn when done. it will give you an option to save and exit.
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We get a Wheat this way!
Oh yeah, to what are we going to change the science?
Science rate to what?
Señores, might I make a post (to be topped in the future) explaionig this shall be our future meeting halls, and how to do it?
research BW. Set science rate as low as possible to keep researching.
Excellent!
how much is 10 5?
please do NW
10%
nw?
Right now, Bronze Working will take 36 turns.
Waitaminute...we don't start researching until the next turn
Nuclearis Winterious,,,, faster way to spell it as NW
We can drop it to zero and let Grand Despot Togas decide tomorrow
Lowest is 20% and still researching
when we end turn, it will accumilate at least one of the 40 turns needed, unless it is left at 50%
Ok, I shall, and i shall also add this glorious event in the great book of events
...But I thought we didn't start researching until the next turn?
at least 20%, otherwise, lets let Grand Pouba Togas decide.
no, we start right now...
oh...okay then.
Let´s 20%
How high can we go while maintaning a surplus?
man, we are spain, we mean coin, not that much of brain...
90% is 18 turns, 0 income
buy, even the builder are not gonna 90%!
That would be 80%...I use surplus meaning +gold
no. gold is our trading commodity. we want as much as we can.
how much for 30%?
Togas can adjust later. whatever.
Okay, 80%, +1 gold, 24 turns
But then, I'm saying, then, how low can we drop back down from 80 without the no. of turns changing?
30%, 40 turns, +3
I mean, that's the way I always research, at least till I meet another civ.
and 70%&60%?
leave it at 50% for now. Togas will change it later. Anythign else we need to do.
70% is no change, 60% changes
60 changes for what?
40,50,60 are all +2, 36 turns
i guess 40 is pretty moderate... that´s what we shall do!
I say 70% because we still get +4 gold that way but 1 more beaker
We can change it later
70 is +3
sorry, 70 is +1
70% is +4gold, and 3 sci I think
so go for seventy, i think.
70%!
and this is our last tribal meeting where we are equals until Grand Despot Togas dispatches his military on us.

70 is income of 4, yes, 3 to science
70% then??
I have no strong prefeerences. whatever you decide on as long as it is at least 20%
no wait...
Personally, I would just leave it a 50%
oh yeah, you're right, but for income you gotta subtract science from 4...
(or whatever teh number is)
man, we shall give our opinions the same way, only difference is that we shall adress to him as Great Lord

and also tell him how he is always right!
let´s vote ,
70%
Build Warrior?
I say, 50%. However I have no strong preferences as long as we are making a surplus and researching somethig.
Yes, warrior, Togas said that he wanted to explore ASAP.
And the build order?
That's one 20%+, two 50%, and one 70%. The 50's have it, I think.
All your fault gk

Well, sure, we won't need temples until later if Grand Despot Togas uses pop-rushing as effectively as I think he will.

first I say build a barracks. That what I do in my games. A worrior will do us good now also.
Noo! Don´t poprush the poor merchants!
Nor the squids!
Either a Warrior or a Barracks, other than that it doesnot matter.
this can be changed without any loss next time. leave it, end turn.
I mean, yes, let's build Warrior.
Warrior shall find ´n explore. Please!
But GK is right
we can change it without a penalty
Okay, Final Summary: Science 50%, Bronze Working, Warrior, Worker to cow, Founded Madrid.
So let's just leave it alone, okay? good
now, how do you make a log of this?
ok, but for roleplay, warrior for now!
Yeah, I need a log, so that I can tell the forum on the news.
Quickly, pass on the save, we've had it for 2 or so hours now!!!
brb
Okay, saving.
HA! We are by far the most misterious team!
I can do a summary thread of this chat in the forum
brb
Ok, I´ll go for the IRC thing.
anyone have the next email?
You do the rough summary in a new thread, I do it in roleplay wise, ok spamish?
back
oh, I can dramitize it

Next one is voxians...
the next email...listed up there in the chat somewhere
Spamish, allow me to, I also have some good ideas!
Post here (briefly for heavens sake)what you think on writing roleplay wise.
Oh, I've only got the first 10 pages nailed down!

So we can make somewhat of a contest
OK. Did you hit end turn? and get the screen that says to save and exit?
A Civilization Is Created!!!
About 7 high-ranking members of the wandering Iberians sat down in front of the campfire.
How's that for a start?
sounds good.
Ok, if i write I shall adopt it :b
Now for the worker,
Hows about we PM each other what we plan to do?
(That is when we get it written)
Yeah, musch better, then we mix these things.
you go ahead. I am done. Thanks. Good turn. Later all.
And end wiht good text!
See you latter, Señor GK!
Is Senor Dejon sending the save to the next dude?
Hope so...
Wait!!! How do you get a chat log?
Yes, I ended it properly and saved it. Don't know the next email though.
I will save the log of this chat.
how?
About the chat, just copy and paste it on the wordpad!
So this way everybody who wants can have it!
mIRC has a logging feature, I had it on.
oh, how do you turn it on?
* GodKing has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)
I don´t have the whole chat... who has been here for the whole time?
Nuke, we must be using a different prog, becuase I can't highlight the text

I was here all along.
I was too
Nor can i, just notticed

Shame on me!
click the top left corner of the irc channel windows, logging... is an option.
Can you send me the log, for mine will be incomplete
I'll send the log to the distribution list.
distribution list?
thanks
sorry, but what is this?
that's the list he used to send the save file

Ah, you're not on it yet NW - email addy?
So it is in the forum right now?
ah,mine is:
crono_theswordsman@bol.com.br
that's odd-I quit PtW, it comes up with the "save" dialogue, and the options are:
save (paraphrased) or
continue game
I clicked 'continue game' and it quit

weird...
Must be something related to spirits
:b
Boys, I need go have some dinner! It´s 10 pm were I live!
BTW, what is your time greenwich related spamish ´n dejon?
GMT minus 6 (Central Standard Time)
* GodKing has joined #civ3rp
It's only 6:17 where I live

hello gk
dejon, can you email the save to jon miller
Have you dropped something here GK?

he and vox controli get it next.

why Miller time too?

he is their leader
until they all die by our sword that is.
Is Miller Vox Controli's leader?
I thought someone else was next.
Not by our sword! By our nukes! Remember, NUCLEAR WINTER
I think so. Thats what fustratedpoet said.
Save game sent to Flash of Vox
oh, well...
Senor Dejon, I don't have the chat log
He showed up in General Forum
(or is that because the chat isnt over

)
OK. As long as they have it.
thanks, and bye again.
* GodKing has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)
bye.
adios amigo
Dejon, and what about the chat log?
yeah!
Yeah, yeah, hang on...
(we better not gang up on him, he's got more muscles than everyone else in Madrid combined

)
* Logging #civ3rp to 'D:\#civ3rp.GRNet.log'
Oh i hate bullies! Umm I mean, bunnies. I hate bunnies!*gulp*
Oh darn, I didn't have logging on...cut and paste time.
um, if you're using mIRC you cant cut&paste
are you using mIRC?
yes you can, it is just a chore.
how?
yes, tell us how!
If you click and drag, it will highlight the text, then you have to hit ctrl-c. You can only do a page at a time though
It wont highlight!

hold the click - don't release
that's what I'm doing

Ok, lemme have some dinner then. Spamish, send me your text in an hour, ok?
Till latter guys!
Adios AMigos!
NOW it lets me... argh:
anywayz.
huh?
* Spamish is now known as mrmitchell_AFK
ack, can you just do it Dejon, I gotta go
* NuclearisWinterius has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
I guess you are

anywayz I'll just keep this window open, I can remember the details.

**GodKing** · December 1, 2002, 20:58

oops- just realized that everybodies names were erased... wonder how that happened....

well, just guess, or if you hit reply with quote, you hopefully will see the names as they are in < shaped thing.

**Hot Mustard** · December 1, 2002, 21:02

OOC

Here it is online: http://members.rogers.com/dejon/civ3rp.txt

**History Guy** · December 1, 2002, 22:36

Can we please have a summary?

**Togas** · December 1, 2002, 22:38

What is the name of the chat channel?

**Hot Mustard** · December 1, 2002, 22:46

Originally posted by Togas
What is the name of the chat channel?

The details are here .

**ruby_maser** · December 2, 2002, 00:22

Originally posted by Togas
What is the name of the chat channel?

Don't know if it has been clarified for you yet, Togas. The channel was #civ3rp Migros

**pikesfan** · December 2, 2002, 00:37

Is the first turnchat going to become our El Cid?

I’m not going to be the one to put it in verse

**ruby_maser** · December 2, 2002, 01:09

Originally posted by pikesfan
Is the first turnchat going to become our El Cid?

I’m not going to be the one to put it in verse

it looks like an epic poem now that you mention it

**ThePlagueRat** · December 2, 2002, 01:15

Oh by the gods, this was long!

I didn't read it though...

**OliverFA** · December 2, 2002, 05:26

Oh for the spirits! It seems you had lots of fun after I was gone!

What a pitty I lost it.

Special thanks for all those who tried to do their best with the first turn

Announcement

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