Naming cities according to the true Spanish history

[astrologix]

Hi

In regard of roleplay purposes, I'm wondering if it'd be right to name our first city 'Madrid'. In fact, this city was unknown at the dawn of the Spanish civ. The first mention of Madrid in a book was made about 1000 AD. The city was early named 'Majrit' (from the arab language), and after Madrid. This city becomes the Spanish capital under Phillipe IIth, at 1561 AD.

I suggest 'Gadir' (currently Cadiz) as our first city, In fact, Gadir was the true known first city of Spain, founded by the phoenitians.

Other following cities were Malaca (Malaga), Hispalis (Sevilla), Abdera (Adra),... About 550 BC, the Greeks founded Emporion (Ampurias), Rhode (Rosas), Dianion (Denia), Sagonte (Sagunto),...

Other cities were founded by the Celts or by the Romans.

It would be fine if we try to respect the historical developement of our civilization, and adapt the names of our cities accordingly.

Following this idea, Madrid could become our capital (if needed, by renaming Gadir or another city) at the end of the medieval era, after the building of our first Conquistador.

Any thoughts ?


PS. I'm very worried with my bad English. I hope you can live with it !!

[Ninot]

Im all for roleplay and realism, but I would rather use the standard city list.

[History Guy]

Yes, I'd be with Ninot on that.

[Thrumble]

Compromise, I'd say Hispalis (Sevilla) would be a good choice for the first city. Just because another civ (the Phoenicians) founded a rest stop in the area to be latter known as Spain is no reason for us to be forced to use it for our first city.

[Ninot]

Comprimise?

naaaaaah

[Arnelos]

astrologix.

Actually, I'd be ok with our first city being 'Madrid', but I think we should establish "REGIONS" (Aragon, Castile, Leon, Galicia, Cataluna, etc.) where the cities in that region are appropriately named

[pikesfan]

I thought Tartessos was the first city in Spain, but I agree with everyone else. It will be much easier to go along with the default names so we avoid arguments about “what should we name this city”. Maybe we can pick up the forgotten cities once we get to founding New Madrid.

[History Guy]

Quite so, Arnelos.

[DAVOUT]

Re: Naming cities according to the true Spanish history

Originally posted by astrologix


PS. I'm very worried with my bad English. I hope you can live with it !!

All we expect from a Swiss is a strong currency. I much prefer your English than the one of all those Americans who use in every sentence words that are not in my dictionnary.
But if your English is good, does that mean that your currency ...

[DAVOUT]

I feel compelled to report to Togas that all of you (with the exception of Astrologix not yet contaminated) are impertinently contradicting formal orders regarding the way the Roleplay must be roleplayed.

We unfortunately know how city naming can degenerate when not backed by a firmly affirmed policy.

Juan de Torquemada
The faithful Prosecutor (for a start)

[Arnelos]

[OUT-OF-CHARACTER]

DAVOUT, astrologix, et al,

Here's an old joke I heard a few years ago... It plays on stereo-types (other than the Swiss one, which just doesn't make any sense... but that's beside the point)...

A European's Vision of Heaven and a European's Vision of Hell:

In a European's vision of heaven...

The English are the Police
The Germans run the Government
The French do the Cooking
The Swiss run the Banks
and the Italians are the Lovers

and in a European's vision of hell...

The English do the Cooking
The Germans are the Police
The French run the Banks
The Swiss are the Lovers
and the Italians run the Government

...

[DAVOUT]

The problem the EU has is that the Swiss stubbornly refuse to enter !

[astrologix]

I'm not a rich Swiss

[OliverFA]

Originally posted by DAVOUT


The problem the EU has is that the Swiss stubbornly refuse to enter !

The problem is that the countries that are already inside the EU would rather prefer to have stayed out

[History Guy]

Please! Not Italians running the government! Anything but that!

(Once again, I feel impelled to assassinate Torquemada...)