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This issue came yesterday during our chat at #MilOps. Right now Lego and Vox can investigate Pamplona for GoW and ND and know exactly the composition of our army. Would it be a good idea to declare war on them and avoid this chance? I doubt it could have many diplomatic consequences. After all, the only thing we have achieved from Lego is a ridiculous luxury.
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"Never trust a man who puts your profit before his own profit." - Grand Nagus Zek, Star Trek Deep Space Nine, episode 11
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I doubt Vox spies on us for GoW or ND, but I´m not so sure about Lego, because Vondrack has power now and he is doing whatever he desires. Yet, declaring war to Legoland would eliminate every chance of eventual support from Legoland. Declaring war is, in my view, not something that you do to avoid another nation from spying on you.
I think we should contact Sharpe, Kloreep, ZargonX or Nimitz and explain the situation that we fear that Vondrack misuses of the Lego intelligence agency for the purpose of supporting GoW and ND in the war and our possible reaction to this to avoid such, but that we would rather not do so. Remaining kind to them is the way to get them on your side, nothing else.
Diomingo Cian, Royal Ambassador to Legoland"Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise can not see all ends." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring.
Term 9 and 10 Domestic Minister of the C3DG I., Term 8 Regional Governor of Old Persia in the C3DG and proud citizen of Apolyton. Royal Ambassador to Legoland in the C3 PTW DG, Foreign Affairs Minister and King of the United Kingdom in the MZO C3CDG and leader of the Monarchist Imperialist team. Moody Sir Aidun (The Impatient) of the Holy Templar Order in the C4BtSDG -
I agree with Aidun. Also, when the time is ripe, we just attack them without warning - Post destruction of ND.
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I think we give Lego an ultimatum of either hepling us or that we need to decalre war on them to prevnt them from helping GoW. Because, in our opinion, if you are not helping us, then, in effect, you are helping the enemy.
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Nuclear Master just contacted me over AIM to tell me that he and Nimitz are running against vondrack for Lego FAM on the grounds of changing Lego's allegiance to that of RP and GS. He might just be playing with me, but concerning Nimitz, I think it's valid (if not also with Nuke Master).
I say that, for now, we should take a wait-and-see approach. Let's see if Lego changes course.Long-time poster on Apolyton and WePlayCiv
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Wow, that does change things. We'll see though....Comment
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NM and Nimitz... two good friends (as far as Poly goes) wow.
How much does the FAM influence their actual Foreign Affairs policy though? Is there a President who sets such things, or do those two really think that they can make a difference?Comment
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Did Nuclear Master tell when the election results will be known?"Never trust a man who puts your profit before his own profit." - Grand Nagus Zek, Star Trek Deep Space Nine, episode 11
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Yeah , we need to know that. Let us pray that they can win, it is our only hope now. And I am against declaring war against them, this would hurt even more our frail diplomatic stanceSeñor Nuclearis Winterius the III,
Diplomat with the Voxians, and also
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This is really good news. The only thing we can do now is to pray.
BigFree, an ultimatum is not a way to make friends. I hoped that Americans understood that after 3 years Bush
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Aidun"Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise can not see all ends." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring.
Term 9 and 10 Domestic Minister of the C3DG I., Term 8 Regional Governor of Old Persia in the C3DG and proud citizen of Apolyton. Royal Ambassador to Legoland in the C3 PTW DG, Foreign Affairs Minister and King of the United Kingdom in the MZO C3CDG and leader of the Monarchist Imperialist team. Moody Sir Aidun (The Impatient) of the Holy Templar Order in the C4BtSDGComment
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I don't see it as an ultimatum. Is just a friendly way to tell them that we will be forced to declare them war unless things change. We cannot be waiting forever until they change their mind."Never trust a man who puts your profit before his own profit." - Grand Nagus Zek, Star Trek Deep Space Nine, episode 11
"A communist is someone who has read Marx and Lenin. An anticommunist is someone who has understood Marx and Lenin." - Ronald Reagan (1911-2004)Comment
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