130ad (34): orders, results, etc

[Togas]

fight on!

[History Guy]

Yes, and for heaven's sake...fight this time.

[Togas]

NYE reports that GS will not be giving us Madrid this turn. They are 1 turn from completing a catapult in that city and healing a knight there. They will return the city to us next turn.

They will be sending 40g and iron (if possible) as well as luxes (if possible)

--Togas

[Togas]

The save arrived last night and has been forwarded onto most of the active participants.

We will play the save tonight, between 7-9pm PST. Please be in chat during this period of time and please post comments, suggestions, etc in this thread in the mean time.

--Togas

[Hot Mustard]

After a brief inspection of the save, here are my thoughts:

-Change to Monarchy
-Adjust WF in Barcelona to get Horseman in 1 turn
-Adjust WF in Pamplona to increase gpt to -9 (work Gold mtn)

We haven't seen any GoW galleys for a couple of turns, right? We can either bring ours back to Barcelona, or ask GS if they can think of something better (perhaps they can see a GoW galley, or would appreciate having us block some coastal tiles for them).

We have one lonely pikeman (The Red Zealots) that survived the southern slaughter. ND/GoW seem to wish to be quite thorough, so he'll likely be attacked next turn. We can either run him into the mountains or use him to scout their units.

ND is sitting on the mtn to the west of Pamplona with a stack that includes 6 Ansars, 3 Pikes, and 2 MedInf (iirc). I doubt they will attack this turn with only 6 Ansars. They are more likely to wait for more, and/or coordinate an assualt with the GoW Riders (once they've healed and returned from all over the south).

Attacking that stack with our meager Knight force would of course be foolish. We must wait for them to weaken themselves against our defenses, and for GS to gather their more impressive number of Knights to ride in to our rescue.

[Nuclear Winter]

I know it is islly diplomacy, but I´d rather say ´´to our aid´´. To our rescue sounds ... hmm... like if Spain is a defenseless girl...:hmm?: and Spain has a proud and vast army no defenseless girl would have.

[astrologix]

Could I have the save, please ? Thanks

[OliverFA]

I've forwarded the save to Astrologix

My thoughts after seeing it is that we'd better wait and heal our army. Luckily we (defenseless girl or not ) are well protected by GS.

[astrologix]

Señor Fernandez, I agree

(save received )

[Hot Mustard]

Originally posted by Nuclear Winter
I know it is islly diplomacy, but I´d rather say ´´to our aid´´. To our rescue sounds ... hmm... like if Spain is a defenseless girl...:hmm?: and Spain has a proud and vast army no defenseless girl would have.

Point taken, and I agree.

[BigFree]

There's nothing to attack this turn. I would guess that GoW has regrouped it's Rider's and have Salmanca covered. If we follow the Togas plan, we wait till GS kills some Riders/Ansars before we put our troops at risk...

[Togas]

I am waiting in chat. Please meet me there. We will play the turn in the next few hours.

--Togas

p.s. the ridicule and sarcasm are not helping. They only make me more inclined to not listen to you, and they also make me inclined to want to trade insults. Knock it off! It doesn't help so stop it.

[Togas]

Results

GS gives us Furs, Incense, Iron, WM, 40g

We change to Monarchy. In the beginning we are at -15gpt. By the end (after WF adjustments) we are at -9gpt.
NOTE: We did not lose any gold for upkeep this turn, upkeep was done while we were in Anarchy.

W, W of Pamplona, on the mountain, sits ND's stack: 6 Ansars, 2 Inf, 4 Pikes. Not all that impressive compared to
our forces in the city. This clearly cannot be their whole army.

Sir Unorthodox 3/5 still sits in Merida, which is in revolt.

GS protectors:
West of Barcelona: 4 pikes, 2 knights.
North of Barcelona: 2 pikes, 3 inf, 1 cat.

GS reports that they will return Madrid next turn, which should get us back "in the black" with our budget.

military:

Red Zealots move NE, see wounded Sir Bob 2/4

Isabella S, SE, SE
Pinta SE, SE, S

pike named after Aidun
pike named after Davout
infantry named after Bigfree

workers:
Castor & Pollox STUCK. Just finished road and cannot move this turn.
Pamplona Four E


cities:
Barcelona WF changed to 1-3-5-6-7-8 to allow for horse in 1 turn, growth in 1 turn. Will build horseman next turn, then walls.

Pamplona WF changed to 2-3-6-7-8-19-20 to give more trade. Will build pike next turn, then pike.