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  • 90 (23): Orders, Results, Discussion

    We are now counting down to the inevitable. War is coming quickly, and the cities, workers, and military of Spain MUST be prepared.

    Post your orders early and change them as suggestions and ideas are brought forth by other Lords.

    --Togas
    Greatest Moments in ISDG chat:"(12/02/2003) <notyoueither> the moon is blue. hell is cold. quote me, but i agree with ET. "
    Member of the Mercenary Team in the Civ 4 Team Democracy Game.
    Former Consul for the Apolyton C3C Intersite Tournament Team.
    Heir to the lost throne of Spain of the Roleplay Team in the PTW Democracy Multiplayer Team Game.

  • #2
    Pamplona:

    City grows to size 6 this turn, building barracks, check that the WFs are set up accordingly:
    Code:
        #2, shielded grassland
        #3, Gold Mountain
        #6, forest
        #7, cattle bonus
        [b]#8, cattle bonus - new[/b]
        #19, shielded grassland
    The games should just reassign #8, but please check. We'll keep Gold Mountain for now and still grow to size 7 in 3 turns.

    As I've discussed in the World War Bob (WWB) thread, Pamplona is capable of netting 14 or 15 shields a turn in a short time if priority and worker availability dictates.
    "The dogmas of the quiet past are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty, and we must rise with the occasion. As our case is new, so we must think anew and act anew. We must disenthrall ourselves, and then we shall save our country." -- Abraham Lincoln

    "Generations to come will scarce believe that such a one as this ever, in flesh and blood, walked upon this earth." -- Albert Einstein, in regards to Mohandis Gandhi

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    • #3
      I'm not sure if irrigating the vigo grasslands is all that big a priority anymore. we'll see.
      I would suggest that the med.inf goes to santiago and that I place my new pikeman on the iron instead.
      Diplogamer formerly known as LzPrst

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      • #4
        Merida
        We grow this turn. WF changes:
        Make sure we are working the wheat and the elephant. That will net us an extra 2 GPT.

        We'll continue with the construction of the temple at the moment since production here is so low. Arnelos also made a good point, that the temple is a great place holder in the mean time

        Worker Orders
        *Note: All directions are indicated by keypad directions.
        We'll continue with improvements at the moment. No civilian forces are currently threatened.

        Salamanca: New worker construced. Name him "Iron Man" and send him to the iron deposit that is 2-3-3-3 from Vigo. This gives us a second source and backup incase our iron is taken in the coming war.
        Bilboa: Worker waiting for orders. Name him "Trabajador Pequeno" (Little Worker) and have him road the jungle tile with Small Fry.
        Merida: Have all the workers irrigate the elephant tile. If they finish with this, the remaining workers move @ 1 towards Sevilla.
        Valencia: Workers @ 1-1, have them road tile. They will go and connect our two new cities.


        Regarding Vigo - The workers will complete the mine on the gems in about 2 turns, which will be about the same time that you will grow, so that will add a nice injection of cash and shields to your city output. After the workers are finished with the mine, we'll go ahead and irrigate some of the grasslands. (Or should we mine the other gem?)
        Last edited by WhiteBandit; July 9, 2003, 14:57.
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        • #5
          Barcelona :

          Set WF to max prod (6 shields p turn, 1 food p t)

          Set queue to Pikeman
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          • #6
            Zaragoza:

            Medieval Infantry completed, train another regiment.

            Duke Aidun Cian of Zaragoza
            "Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise can not see all ends." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring.
            Term 9 and 10 Domestic Minister of the C3DG I., Term 8 Regional Governor of Old Persia in the C3DG and proud citizen of Apolyton. Royal Ambassador to Legoland in the C3 PTW DG, Foreign Affairs Minister and King of the United Kingdom in the MZO C3CDG and leader of the Monarchist Imperialist team. Moody Sir Aidun (The Impatient) of the Holy Templar Order in the C4BtSDG

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            • #7
              I propose we move:
              Pikeman in Merida to Leon
              Spear in Salamanca to Pamplona (will be upgraded once barracks are done)
              Pike in Pamplona to Zaragoza.
              Mountain Watch to Zaragoza.
              A Zaragoza spear to ONE TILE SOUTH of Santaigo.
              A Santiago spear to ONE TILE SOUTH of Santiago.

              --Togas
              Greatest Moments in ISDG chat:"(12/02/2003) <notyoueither> the moon is blue. hell is cold. quote me, but i agree with ET. "
              Member of the Mercenary Team in the Civ 4 Team Democracy Game.
              Former Consul for the Apolyton C3C Intersite Tournament Team.
              Heir to the lost throne of Spain of the Roleplay Team in the PTW Democracy Multiplayer Team Game.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Togas
                I propose we move:
                A Zaragoza spear to ONE TILE SOUTH of Santaigo.
                A Santiago spear to ONE TILE SOUTH of Santiago.
                --Togas
                Why?
                "Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise can not see all ends." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring.
                Term 9 and 10 Domestic Minister of the C3DG I., Term 8 Regional Governor of Old Persia in the C3DG and proud citizen of Apolyton. Royal Ambassador to Legoland in the C3 PTW DG, Foreign Affairs Minister and King of the United Kingdom in the MZO C3CDG and leader of the Monarchist Imperialist team. Moody Sir Aidun (The Impatient) of the Holy Templar Order in the C4BtSDG

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                • #9
                  The key to disarming Spain (or any nation for that matter) is to deny them of vital resources. ND's attack is likely to be joined by a naval assault on Vigo either by ND or by GoW forces.

                  We need units who can respond quickly to Vigo in case of emergency, but can also respond to threats near the expected point of attack. So I proposed to begin stationing units at a position where they can equally reach danger spots on the west coast and Santiago.

                  --Togas
                  Greatest Moments in ISDG chat:"(12/02/2003) <notyoueither> the moon is blue. hell is cold. quote me, but i agree with ET. "
                  Member of the Mercenary Team in the Civ 4 Team Democracy Game.
                  Former Consul for the Apolyton C3C Intersite Tournament Team.
                  Heir to the lost throne of Spain of the Roleplay Team in the PTW Democracy Multiplayer Team Game.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Togas
                    I propose we move:
                    Pikeman in Merida to Leon
                    Spear in Salamanca to Pamplona (will be upgraded once barracks are done)
                    Pike in Pamplona to Zaragoza.
                    Mountain Watch to Zaragoza.
                    A Zaragoza spear to ONE TILE SOUTH of Santaigo.
                    A Santiago spear to ONE TILE SOUTH of Santiago.

                    --Togas
                    Sounds good. I don't have time to do full orders until tomorrow morning. If the save comes before then (and must be played), here are the priorities:

                    -Consider rushing units in critical and underdefended areas (Vigo, Toledo)
                    -Move interior units towards fronts, and towards barracks if they need upgrades
                    -Workers must abandon work not of immediate military value (extra shields for unit production or military roads)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Togas
                      The key to disarming Spain (or any nation for that matter) is to deny them of vital resources. ND's attack is likely to be joined by a naval assault on Vigo either by ND or by GoW forces.

                      We need units who can respond quickly to Vigo in case of emergency, but can also respond to threats near the expected point of attack. So I proposed to begin stationing units at a position where they can equally reach danger spots on the west coast and Santiago.

                      --Togas
                      OK

                      Aidun
                      "Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise can not see all ends." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring.
                      Term 9 and 10 Domestic Minister of the C3DG I., Term 8 Regional Governor of Old Persia in the C3DG and proud citizen of Apolyton. Royal Ambassador to Legoland in the C3 PTW DG, Foreign Affairs Minister and King of the United Kingdom in the MZO C3CDG and leader of the Monarchist Imperialist team. Moody Sir Aidun (The Impatient) of the Holy Templar Order in the C4BtSDG

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                      • #12
                        Military orders :
                        ==============================
                        ---------------------------------------
                        Northwest Front
                        ---------------------------------------
                        Mountain Watch (Pike on mtn)
                        -fortify

                        The two Med. Inf. below are being routed to the northeast front, which currently has half the defenders that the northwest front does. Considering the decent ND roads, and the coastal corridor available to GoW, this is not good.

                        new Med. Inf. (in Zaragoza)
                        -rename to Bashing Maul 5
                        -move SE, SE, S

                        Smashing Maul 6
                        -rename Bashing Maul 6
                        -move S, E, E

                        Togas' idea for moving units S of Santiago is excluded for now - the Nina (galley) is in a position to give us enough warning to get defenders to Vigo if necessary.

                        ---------------------------------------
                        Northeast Front
                        ---------------------------------------
                        Toledo Guard (N of Toledo)
                        -rename Mountain Watch II
                        -move NE

                        Watch Rider
                        -move W, N
                        This unit is not much use before Chivalry (which I do not believe will we get). I believe we should scout the only passage GoW would have to us without going through ND lands.

                        ---------------------------------------
                        Central
                        ---------------------------------------
                        Salamanca Guard
                        -move E, N
                        Going to Pamplona for upgrade.

                        Merida Guard
                        -move NE
                        Going to northern front.

                        Pamplona Guard
                        -move NE, E, E
                        Going to northeast front - we have far fewer units on that front.

                        ---------------------------------------
                        East Coast & South
                        ---------------------------------------
                        Smashing Maul 4 (in New Madrid)
                        -rename to Bashing Maul 4
                        -move NW, NW, N

                        Bashing Mauls 1-3
                        -move NW, N, N (into Toledo)

                        Toledo Guard (S of Toledo)
                        -move N (into Toledo)
                        -fortify

                        The next three orders abuse the fact that we don't need garrison units in our luxury-rich cities...

                        Madrid Guard
                        -move NW, N
                        -fortify
                        This unit can provide reinforcement of Toledo if needed and still defend New Madrid.

                        Valencia Guard
                        -move N, N, N
                        Going to defensive spot north of Barcelona, from where it can provide defense for New Madrid and Barcelona.

                        Barcelona Guard
                        -move W, W
                        -fortify
                        This unit will provide reinforcement for Barcelona if needed, and can go to Valencia if we see galleys headed further south.

                        Guardia Observatoria
                        -move NE
                        May garrison Cordoba, allowing Pike to go elsewhere.

                        ---------------------------------------
                        Naval
                        ---------------------------------------
                        Santa Maria
                        -move NE, N, NE

                        Nina
                        -move N, N, E

                        Pinta
                        -move NE, NE, N

                        ---------------------------------------
                        Rushes to Consider
                        ---------------------------------------
                        Vigo
                        -Pikeman (60 gold)

                        Santiago
                        -Pikeman (64 gold)

                        Pamplona
                        -Barracks (116 gold)

                        ==============================
                        City Governor orders :
                        ==============================
                        ---------------------------------------
                        Leon
                        ---------------------------------------
                        No Changes - Med. Inf in 2

                        ---------------------------------------
                        Salamanca
                        ---------------------------------------
                        No Changes - Worker completed, Build Pikeman
                        ==============================
                        Last edited by Hot Mustard; July 10, 2003, 11:34.

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                        • #13
                          Yes, I'd like the empty grassland to be irrigated. then I can support the mountain mines...
                          the 2nd mine is low priority
                          Diplogamer formerly known as LzPrst

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                          • #14
                            The save is here. No war yet. Please meet in chat ASAP, I plan to play the save between 3-4 EST today.

                            --Togas
                            Greatest Moments in ISDG chat:"(12/02/2003) <notyoueither> the moon is blue. hell is cold. quote me, but i agree with ET. "
                            Member of the Mercenary Team in the Civ 4 Team Democracy Game.
                            Former Consul for the Apolyton C3C Intersite Tournament Team.
                            Heir to the lost throne of Spain of the Roleplay Team in the PTW Democracy Multiplayer Team Game.

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                            • #15
                              Results
                              MURCIA founded.

                              Mil Strengths remain the same.

                              military:
                              Mountain Watch II NE (onto Mountain)
                              Smashing Maul 6 FORT
                              Bashing Maul 5 SE, SE, S
                              Salamanca Guard E, N
                              Merida Guard NE
                              Watch Rider E, N
                              Bashing Maul 4 NW, NW, N
                              Bashing Maul 1-3 NW, N, N (into Toledo)
                              Toledo Guard N, FORT
                              Mountain Watch W
                              Cordoba Guard N
                              GuObs NE
                              Sevillia Guard NE (new spear will take his place in 2 turns)
                              Pamplona Guard NE, E, E
                              Madrid Guard NE, N, FORT
                              Valencia Guard N, N, N
                              Barcelona Guard W, W, FORT
                              Iron Maul renamed to Smashing Maul 7. E, NE, E
                              Smashing Maul 6 renamed to Bashing Maul 6. S, E, E
                              Vigo Guard renamed to Iron Guard. NW, FORT

                              Nina N, N, E
                              Pinta NE, NE, N
                              Santa Maria NE, N, NE

                              workers:
                              Iron Man SW, W
                              Visigoth ROAD
                              King's & Barc ROAD
                              Arnelos S, S, SE (moving to Madrid to JOIN)
                              History E (into Toledo)
                              Dejon & Astroloix W
                              El Nino ROAD
                              NW Worker S, W, SE (onto Gold Mnt)

                              cities:
                              Zaragoza finishes Med Inf. Starts on Med Inf.
                              Madrid finishes Granary. Starts Pike.
                              Barcelona finishes Barracks. Starts Pike.
                              Merida grows to 2. Change build to Catapult.
                              Cordoba WF changed to wheatfield.
                              Barcelona WF remains the same. Moving WF adds corruption, so extra sheild lost.
                              Santiago RUSHED Pike for 64g
                              Vigo RUSHED Pike for 60g
                              Pamplona RUSHED Barracks for 112g.
                              Salamanca changed to Catapult

                              images posted here

                              --Togas
                              Greatest Moments in ISDG chat:"(12/02/2003) <notyoueither> the moon is blue. hell is cold. quote me, but i agree with ET. "
                              Member of the Mercenary Team in the Civ 4 Team Democracy Game.
                              Former Consul for the Apolyton C3C Intersite Tournament Team.
                              Heir to the lost throne of Spain of the Roleplay Team in the PTW Democracy Multiplayer Team Game.

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