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An Evening and a Cup of Tea with Togas, Roleplay Team Leader
I talked with Togas, the despot (leader) of the Roleplay team for about 2 hours earlier today, during which I introduced our team and discussing many matters of importance with him.
To summarize, our relations with Roleplay team are now superb. I discussed many potential trade possibilities with Togas, in addition to many other matters of domestic and diplomatic interest.
I wanted to start on a strong and friendly footing, so I was willing to be very cordial and willing to give out some general information about our situation to gain his trust, and it worked perfectly. Their location is directly south of what is a rather large jungle that spans most (or perhaps all of) the continent east-west, so any information we give about ourselves will not threaten our national security in any way. The information I gave out about us was as follows:
Our general location (north-east part of our continent), the fact that we have contact with NDE and GoW, what techs we have, the fact that we're near to finishing research on Iron Working, and our diplomatic situation with NDE and GoW.
The information I discovered about Roleplay was this:
All of their team must answer to Togas… if he agrees to something, then that's how it is. None of this NDE dilly-dallying until their team can have a poll. Their location is just south of the large jungle, near the coast on the south-east part of our continent. They have contact with only us and NDE. They don't know if there is another civ to their west on our continent, but are exploring to the west. They're in discussions with another team and they have a strong belief that this team is on another continent, and may possibly trade mini-maps with them. They have one more tech than us (Alphabet), and are about 20 turns away from Writing. They currently have a warrior scout heading north a bit further west, and should make contact with NDE's southern border fairly soon.
These are the things Togas and I came to an agreement about:
Roleplay is very interested in starting up an alliance of sorts where each of us researches a different part of the tech tree, then trade them to each other for mutual benefit. The rough plan we sketched out at the moment is for us to research the more 'military' oriented techs and the techs they lead to (e.g. Iron Working, Horseback Riding, etc.), while they will aim for Code of Laws, Map Making, Monarchy, and other similar techs. They're very interested in trading for Iron Working in the near future. I convinced them that NDE isn't to be trusted too much, and that they might start a war over land some time in the near future due to their situation. Overall, they are very interested in a positive and productive relationship with us.
And here's the kicker: Togas was willing for us to enter into a military alliance. He gave me guarantees that should we be attacked by NDE/GoW, Roleplay would secretly strike NDE from the south with multiple Archer/Swordsmen units and utterly destroy NDE from beneath. From the way we talked, I can assure you that this was a very legitimate guarantee, and he's not simply trying to take advantage of us.
It was, IMO, a very productive meeting, and I think both teams will be much better due to our discussions. I'm going to set up a poll on whether or not to enter a tech/military alliance with them, so look for the thread...
To summarize, our relations with Roleplay team are now superb. I discussed many potential trade possibilities with Togas, in addition to many other matters of domestic and diplomatic interest.
I wanted to start on a strong and friendly footing, so I was willing to be very cordial and willing to give out some general information about our situation to gain his trust, and it worked perfectly. Their location is directly south of what is a rather large jungle that spans most (or perhaps all of) the continent east-west, so any information we give about ourselves will not threaten our national security in any way. The information I gave out about us was as follows:
Our general location (north-east part of our continent), the fact that we have contact with NDE and GoW, what techs we have, the fact that we're near to finishing research on Iron Working, and our diplomatic situation with NDE and GoW.
The information I discovered about Roleplay was this:
All of their team must answer to Togas… if he agrees to something, then that's how it is. None of this NDE dilly-dallying until their team can have a poll. Their location is just south of the large jungle, near the coast on the south-east part of our continent. They have contact with only us and NDE. They don't know if there is another civ to their west on our continent, but are exploring to the west. They're in discussions with another team and they have a strong belief that this team is on another continent, and may possibly trade mini-maps with them. They have one more tech than us (Alphabet), and are about 20 turns away from Writing. They currently have a warrior scout heading north a bit further west, and should make contact with NDE's southern border fairly soon.
These are the things Togas and I came to an agreement about:
Roleplay is very interested in starting up an alliance of sorts where each of us researches a different part of the tech tree, then trade them to each other for mutual benefit. The rough plan we sketched out at the moment is for us to research the more 'military' oriented techs and the techs they lead to (e.g. Iron Working, Horseback Riding, etc.), while they will aim for Code of Laws, Map Making, Monarchy, and other similar techs. They're very interested in trading for Iron Working in the near future. I convinced them that NDE isn't to be trusted too much, and that they might start a war over land some time in the near future due to their situation. Overall, they are very interested in a positive and productive relationship with us.
And here's the kicker: Togas was willing for us to enter into a military alliance. He gave me guarantees that should we be attacked by NDE/GoW, Roleplay would secretly strike NDE from the south with multiple Archer/Swordsmen units and utterly destroy NDE from beneath. From the way we talked, I can assure you that this was a very legitimate guarantee, and he's not simply trying to take advantage of us.
It was, IMO, a very productive meeting, and I think both teams will be much better due to our discussions. I'm going to set up a poll on whether or not to enter a tech/military alliance with them, so look for the thread...
In response to your other question, I've known Togas for about 6 months, ever since my term as president of the Civ 3 Demo Game. If I was to be re-elected to a second term, I was going to have him become a judge of the newly-established court. However, I didn't, and the deal fell through, but we've still had a rather cordial relationship for a very long time, so yes, I can be sure that we can trust him. 
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