3000 BC Trade Offers

[statusperfect]

give RP wheel + warrior code for alphabet to show them we're loyal. then we can later trade a cheaper tech for a more expensive one with them. (they will be researching the governments won't they?)

[Jon Shafer]

Jdjdjd has informed me that they're not really interested in the Wheel due to the fact that they have to deal with so much jungle now. Understandable. He said that he wanted the possibility of Iron Working for it, and I explained that we still have a few turns to go, and that by then it would be 2 or 3 times as valuable as Alphabet (which we really don't have much need for), so I'm waiting for his response to it.

[CiverDan]

It appears that WC+Wheel for Alphabet is the best deal right now (even though they dont have much interest in the wheel). I don't want to wait for Iron Working for reasons mentioned above and they fact the Roleplay could potentially get it from someone else or a hut before then (unlikely, but not impossible).

[Zero]

try giving wheel + 10 gold. Even if they dont like it, they evetually will need to research or trade for it. tell em that. beside isnt horse back riding on way to monarchy?

[Jon Shafer]

Togas has informed me that they don't want the Wheel at all, and are coming up with a trade with GoW for Warrior Code.

So as it stands now, we sketched out a bit of a rough plan for the future: We trade Iron Working for Alphabet + 25 gold to start. Not a good deal, but it gets better. Horseback Riding (which we can get from GoW for Iron Working) for Writing, then Mysticism for Map Making. At that point we both make a bee-line for Monarchy techs. I think this is fair enough. We give them a bit with IW, and they give us a bit with Writing and Map Making.

[statusperfect]

Originally posted by Calc II
try giving wheel + 10 gold. Even if they dont like it, they evetually will need to research or trade for it. tell em that. beside isnt horse back riding on way to monarchy?

NO it isn't. But it is still nedded to get into middle ages.

http://www.civfanatics.com/civ3images/tech%20tree/Civ3ancient_times.jpg

[Zero]

okay but it is still a tech that needs to be discovered at SOME point. I mean just because RP doesnt like the wheel doesnt mean they can avoid researching it.

Definitely save iron working to trade them for their second tech. Maybe they are going fro writing or something else thats more valauble. Since we have opened talk about tech buddying, we should try to figure out how we can give them iron working for something eles they are working on tech tree.

[Jon Shafer]

They are going for Writing right now.

The problem is that they don't want to trade Alphabet for anything we have now, and the same goes for NDE. We can't trade for Writing unless we already have Alphabet... that's the problem. I think that the plan Togas and I came up with is acceptable, even if we lose a bit from the first trade, we'll gain what we lose back from the next two (Writing + Map Making are much more valuable than Horseback Riding + Mysticism).

[Jon Shafer]

New info:

Togas has informed me that their deal with GoW might have gone south... it's possible that our tech advantage may stand. The offer of Wheel + Warrior Code + Iron Working for Alphabet + Writing has become a possibility again...

I'll have official verification of the situation in a couple days probably...

[Admiral PJ]

RP will need wheel to get Horseriding, they are probably trying to get it for free from us.

I think we need to try and keep a tech lead, as soon as we can.
We will get a free tech each era, so already have an advantage with that.

Maybe we can make conditions on trades, like only give RP iron working if they don't give it to anyone else.

[punkbass2000]

Originally posted by Admiral PJ
We will get a free tech each era, so already have an advantage with that.

Also, the only other Scientific civ is Persia (Vox), and it appears they may be on another continent. Our greatest advantage in this context will come with monotheism.

[Zero]

catching up on old news. Deal with GoW fell through? We have warrior code now. correct?

By the way, Is luxia name made by trip that refers to our continent? Since we cant agree on name continents with rest of the team (some teams still dont know whther they are on our continent or not), we should refer to the continent we live in as luxia for the private forum. Once we get to point where everyone has access to world map, we can start debating on what the universal continent name should be