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  • #31
    Originally posted by ZargonX
    Hehe... I guess if we really wanted to start sowing some disinformation, now would be the time... fake mini-map, anyone?
    That would be fun, but we would be discovered eventually; besides, neither friends nor a warmongers are good teams to tick off.

    But, seriously, I think I'm actually more willing to trust GoW than the RPers.
    Hmm... I feel the opposite, actually. While I certainly believe GoW can be taken at their word (mercenaries have to be trustworthy that way), their mercenary roll doesn't mean they can't declare war on their own. And promises they don't give can't be broken.

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    • #32
      We should tell the RP that we encountered water and we are afraid that we won't meet until a later date (we might be on different continents/islands).

      We can tell them that we are going to research Pottery but haven't decided yet what to discover after that. If they are so unpatient that they won't understand such simple things, then screw them! We can cooperate with other teams, too.
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      • #33
        Want a nicely worder reply drafted to the RP team?
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        • #34
          Ya something saying we'll give them a pic of the mini-map but we can't start going along a shared research plan till we meet because it might do more harm than good untill we are able to meet.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by redstar1
            Want a nicely worder reply drafted to the RP team?
            Yup!

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            • #36
              Oh I talked to the RPers and they said they would be agreeable to the mini-map exchange.
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              • #37
                Some more good news as a gesture of good will they have given their general location just to the south of the equater and slightly east of the center of the mini-map.
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                • #38
                  Cool. Good to see they trust us somewhat. Now let's show some trust by exchanging our minimaps.

                  If that position is accessible by land, the route we will need to take is through the jungle. Let's get a warrior heading that way ASAP.

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                  • #39
                    I think that we should trade for the mini-maps for both the Role-players and the Glory of War team as the more friendships we develop the better.

                    Yes I know that either of them could backstab us, but why? They know that our strategy is more defensive than offensive and they know that we can be a useful ally (especially for warmonger teams) for providing support.

                    We should inform the Role-players that the reason that we couldn't talk about the next technology was that there was still a great dispute among us as to what we wanted to research next (which was somewhat true).

                    I appreciate the RP's trust in us by making the first step by revealing where they are.

                    I notice while they are south of the equator and just slightly east, we are slightly north of the equator and in the middle of the western hemisphere. While we might be on the same continent as the RP's, we probably aren't as they are quite a bit further east than we are.

                    I agree though that we do need to send a warrior south ASAP.

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                    • #40
                      News from the RPers look.


                      The government of Spain and its illustrious leader, Togas, would like to make a request of you. But first, some background on the state of affairs, that you may or may not be aware of at this point, leading to our request:

                      GhengisFarb of China claimed that you have proposed to forge a trio alliance against us, the nation of Neu Demogyptica. They told us you would think ND has to be weakened as we are the leaders in technology. Furthermore, he claimed that the Chinese rejected this proposal!

                      Sincerly yours,
                      Picahulu, Ambassador of Neu Demogyptica
                      Of course, this is simply a blatant and insulting lie told by Ghengis Farb. Our government has denied these allegations with great vigour; however, current delicate negotiations with ND seem to be stalled due to this situation.

                      Because of our alliance and the general goodwill between our nations, it has come to our attention that you have been approached by GoW, with them attempting to vilify ND.

                      It is thus the request of our government that you inform ND about the nature of GoWs strategy of vilification and slander of peace-loving nations. If possible, this would be accomplished by the forwarding your messages to ND, of course, you may wish to simply paraphrase these and give ND the general meaning that GoW is not to be trusted.

                      In all sincerity and friendship,

                      Thud- Ambassador for Togas, Supreme Leader of Spain
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                      • #41
                        Bloody hell, what are RPers thinking?

                        That we will tell lies about another team to help them look better? I have just reread the thread about the word of warning from GoW (started by Spiffor). Unless I am blind or totally unable to understand the meaning of the words there, ND was not "vilified" by that unnamed GoW member in any way. GoW gave us just an informal warning, informing us about ND rising to power (which was no surprise, considering their expansionist trait), vaguely proposing some kind of cooperation.

                        Because of our location, no further negotiations took place. Anyone correct me (serious! I may have forgotten something important...), but I seem to be unable to recall GoW "vilifying" ND. Thus, I see no reason to comply with the RPers' request.

                        My suggestion would be to politely inform them their information about GoW vilifying ND were not based on truth.

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                        • #42
                          Hmmm, what an odd request... I have seen nothing to suggest that what the GOW said to us was more than just a freindly warning and exchange of vague information. The RolePlay team seem to want to use us as a diplomatic tool to further their own ends. Not being involved in discussions with other teams I don't know how freindly we are with them but lack of info posted in the forum suggests that nothing of note has passed. In such case I would be inclined to say nothing until WE have something to say. Its looking increasingly like we are in isolation geographically and I see no point in playing games when we need to be on good terms with everyone.

                          I would suggest informing the RP team that our contact with GOW was minimal and cordial, and at no time did they cast aspersions on another team.
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                          • #43
                            Well this is how I would handle their request. I would try and contact ND and tell them that we do not feel threaten by them dont see them as a villian and are not forming an alliance against them and reminding them of our peacefull nature, that we would never attack them unprovoked.

                            We should not mention any thing about GOW.
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                            • #44
                              I too believe that GoW did not villify ND, just trying to say that they are rising in power and we must be carefull. All though I do suspect that GoW does have its own motives in this matter, but they are not out right saying they are dangerous.
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by redstar1
                                I would suggest informing the RP team that our contact with GOW was minimal and cordial, and at no time did they cast aspersions on another team.


                                If GoW had actually vilified ND and we could help our allies out by telling the truth, that would be one thing. But we shouldn't lie for anyone but ourselves, and then it should be very carefully considered.

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