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    Shifted to 100% gold and no beakers. I think we can fit two cities on the island. Nothing else seemed to happen.
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    Re: 1175

    Originally posted by GhengisFarb
    Nothing else seemed to happen.




    Message from Zeit

    Greetings from the Gatherig Storm.

    I have read the log of GhengisFarb and Sir Ralph's short chat, and picked up what seems like frustration on your side.
    I realize it must by difficult for you to see our refusal, while making those deals with someone else, namely Vox. When I add to that the recent CoL incident, i can see where this frustration is coming from. You have made some effort in negotiating techs with us, while sometimes facing repeated refusals
    I'm sure that if we are given an adequate opportunity to explain our reasoning, while also sharing our future plans regarding technology research, and hopefuly maintain a cooperative relationship.

    I do not pretend to know where the winds blow in the Glory of War, but i'll take GF's words as those who represent the general feeling in your team, with regard to the tech dealings with us, especially when said directly to one of our team's officials.
    Therefor, i suggest we organize a meeting between representatives of both teams, in order to straighten things out, as well as make plans for the future. Please tell me what you think of this, what time suits you, so that it could arranged.

    Cordially
    Zeit, Chief Diplomat of the Gathering Storm.


    What was said in the chat GF ?

    I obviously cant attend any new chat, but you guys are welcome to come up with some times and contact him.

    I have not responded to his last email.

    I really want to let him know that we suspect that they have an alliance, and that the Vox trade was done without a resell clause intentionally, just to see how close their relationship is with Vox. And also let them know of our frustration that they never came back to us with a counter-offer.
    "No Comment"

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    • #3
      He asked me when I was going to play my turn in one of our PBEM games and I asked him when GS and their Vox Vassals were going to invade Bob.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by GhengisFarb
        He asked me when I was going to play my turn in one of our PBEM games and I asked him when GS and their Vox Vassals were going to invade Bob.

        "No Comment"

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        • #5
          You have a log?

          How did he respond?

          I told you that should have been done in a chat. zeit is too good of a diplomat to give time, and very formal. Ralph is a hot-head when confronted. The PERFECT one to catch in a chat. Great job, GF!

          (I may not be a tactical genious, but I do know Psychology and Debate pretty well)

          It's almost commical watching them scramble about now. "let us explain"
          Last edited by UnOrthOdOx; March 18, 2003, 22:45.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
            You have a log?

            How did he respond?

            I told you that should have been done in a chat. zeit is too good of a diplomat to give time, and very formal. Ralph is a hot-head when confronted. The PERFECT one to catch in a chat. Great job, GF!

            (I may not be a tactical genious, but I do know Psychology and Debate pretty well)

            It's almost commical watching them scramble about now. "let us explain"
            He responded with " Why does your team consider us a treat?"

            I think he meant threat but when I asked him if they were chocolate covered he said "You know English isn't my first language...." and then the conversation pretty much dropped off.

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            • #7
              Defensive. Just what I would have expected. And not a denyal.

              Good job.

              Now, we should be polite in the upcomming chat, and claim it was just some fooling around by GF. We already have what we need to know, let's not strain the relations any further, hmm?

              I can be in a chat after 9 PM Mountain time tonight, but will be busy tomorrow with the SPDG Chat.
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              • #8
                City Placement

                Originally posted by GhengisFarb
                Shifted to 100% gold and no beakers. I think we can fit two cities on the island. Nothing else seemed to happen.
                I see 3 cities:
                One on the Northernmost tile
                One on the Southernmost tile
                One tile south of GFs Northern City

                Compact spacing promotes a short game(Hospitals are less important) and Defence.
                Last edited by realpolitic; March 19, 2003, 18:08.

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                • #9
                  Re: City Placement

                  Originally posted by realpolitic


                  I see 3 cities:
                  One on the Northernmost tile
                  One on the Southernmost tile
                  One tile south of GFs Northern City

                  Compact spacing promotes a short game(Hospitals are less important) and Defence.
                  But then we miss out on the Whale resources.

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                  • #10
                    Interesting point but whales are +1/+1/+2 which is what we'd get from 1 extra tile, and we won't need culture to get there, which we will for the whale tile. Eigther way is OK with me,

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by realpolitic
                      Interesting point but whales are +1/+1/+2 which is what we'd get from 1 extra tile, and we won't need culture to get there, which we will for the whale tile. Eigther way is OK with me,
                      harbors make the whales +2/+1/+2, no?
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by realpolitic
                        Interesting point but whales are +1/+1/+2 which is what we'd get from 1 extra tile, and we won't need culture to get there, which we will for the whale tile. Eigther way is OK with me,
                        No we would get +!/+0/+2 from and extra tile. Whales are THE ONLY SHIELD source from water tiles until Offshore Platforms.

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                        • #13
                          Note that the 2 city placement gives us all the land tiles except for a mountain tile - only one shield.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Panzer32
                            Note that the 2 city placement gives us all the land tiles except for a mountain tile - only one shield.
                            The three city placement does the same thing. Plus less cities equals less corruption from exceeding the Optimal City number not that I have any idea what that is on this map.

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