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[Panzer32]

Yes, please do the tech deal GF.

now for calculating 50 turns from 2850BC...

[realpolitic]

Who's being treacherous?
GF seems to think its Roleplay - Barring any further info you can ignore the rest of this post.


Someone is lying -

According to Trip, ND breaks agreements.
ND did not attack us.
Eigther ND or Trip is dishonest. Maybe later we trade Trip Territory(ie honest) Maps to find out.

Togas says we've been dishonest - is he trying to bully us into making a better agreement or is someone else lying about us?

Anybody know enough about these jokers to know who's full of it?

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Roleplay is definitely trying to manipulate us. But I do think they will make a good partner as long as we realize they are competition and not a full ally.

Lux Invicta is trying to manipulate everyone, especially Roleplay.

ND is somewhat of an enigma, not really getting involved with anyone but definitely trying to cozy up to Roleplay.

[Donegeal]

So, is our trade back on? Did we get Alphabet from RP?

[Panzer32]

when we meet we will

[Hot_Enamel]

Roleplay is definitely trying to manipulate us. But I do think they will make a good partner as long as we realize they are competition and not a full ally.

Lux Invicta is trying to manipulate everyone, especially Roleplay.

ND is somewhat of an enigma, not really getting involved with anyone but definitely trying to cozy up to Roleplay.

We should definitely feed Roleplays ego.

Tell them we have the feeling that they are becoming the dominent civ on the continent, and that we want to align ourselves with them.
Was it not Togas who said that he felt there will be an early war soon in one of his posts ?
Tell him we agree and would like to have an alliance with them against one of the others.
Word it so that we don’t seem the aggressor, but simply want to follow them into battle.
This way, if word is leaked out, or we get some bad rolls and our offensive is destroyed, …we can say it was all Roleplays idea…lets kill them

We can suggest it to be ND, because they sit between us….but let them choose.
Let them bring Lux to the party.

Regs

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Originally posted by donegeal
So, is our trade back on? Did we get Alphabet from RP?

They gave us Alphabet and 5 gold.

It appears that Roleplay and Lux are signing an alliance and mutual defense agreement of sorts.

[Hot_Enamel]

So we need to decide.

Option 1
Align with ND
2 vs 2
With a war timetable using knights (Riders & Ansars)
I like this idea, but can we trust ND...What if RP offers them an aliance and we end up being attacked by all three ?

Option 2
Align with Roleplay & Lux
3 vs 1
But if Lux & RP are in bed together already, they may then turn on us in a 2 vs 1


BTW, Lux needs to be taken out before they get Sipahi.
But that is way in the future...

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

My devious plot is to align with Lux and Roleplay to utilize the tech leveraging to rapidly get us to Chivalry (this tech alliance makes the Great Library useless, we will get techs and surpass Education long before we would have built the Great Library). We then use our Riders to take out ND because we will have advanced faster and thus they never survive to see theirs.

By then we will hopefully have cultivated distrust between Roleplay and Lux and take out Lux before they get their UU.

Roleplay's UU is the Conquistidor and not as life threatening as the other two.

Really, the key Wonder is pretty much the Pyramids in the Ancient Age.

[Hot_Enamel]

Agreed

Good to know that we have a plan....A devious plan is even better.

So long as we dont end up being on the worse end of a 3 vs 1 aliance, then it sounds like you have things in order.

Priority has to be getting onto the RP/Lux bandwagon.

Then we need to break their alliance and go after Lux.
Even with weak Conquistidors and Lux not having their UU....it will be tough to take both of them on at the same time.
Perhaps some help from the other continent ?
This is way in the future though...
It is impossible to plan that far ahead.

My only suggestion...feed their ego.

[Aro]

Originally posted by Hot_Enamel


My only suggestion...feed their ego.

Yep, but do it carefully. They have some smart guys there...

[Hot_Enamel]

Agreed.

I have complete faith in GhengisFarbs ability to grovel at the feet of Togas in the appropriate way.

[Aro]

Originally posted by Hot_Enamel
Agreed.

I have complete faith in GhengisFarbs ability to grovel at the feet of Togas in the appropriate way.

Don't forget Arnelos...

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Originally posted by Hot_Enamel
Agreed.

I have complete faith in GhengisFarbs ability to grovel at the feet of Togas in the appropriate way.

[Hot_Enamel]

j/k of course