520 AD Orders

[Master Zen]

Urgent Business

Not much really important this turn other than working the Irongard-Skulgaria area. Have we given Vox an answer regarding Printing Press? They will be working on Democracy after that, however, I don't see why we will need Democracy. Does any of you think differently?

Also, the Hill is starting a University. It also does not have a Market. I think a Uni is better since we are max-sciencing even though it will take longer to finish.

[Aggie]

I agree with university. It should have a MP also i think.
Aggie

[Master Zen]

Correct, it is a bank which it doesn't have.

[Donegeal]

Are either PP or Demo required for the next age?

[Master Zen]

Originally posted by donegeal
Are either PP or Demo required for the next age?

Nope, which is the main reasoning why they will be of no use to us.

Then again, since everyone will have Chiv as of next turn (except RP and Vox), maybe we can do the trade becuase we are nice guys. Vox did help us in our little war after all...

[Hot_Enamel]

I say trade with them.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

I'm all for the trade, maybe we can build Shakespear's somewhere.

[Master Zen]

Originally posted by GhengisFarb
I'm all for the trade, maybe we can build Shakespear's somewhere.

or maybe we can use it as a pre-build for something better.... *tsk* Hoover's *tsk*

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Crud, forgot about that one, we really should have a city stockpiling shields for a shot at Hoover.

[Panzer32]

we don't need to this early Ghengis, thats what got us behind - prebuilding waaaayyy too early for Leo's

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Originally posted by Panzer32
we don't need to this early Ghengis, thats what got us behind - prebuilding waaaayyy too early for Leo's

Exact opposite. We kept putting it off for one more worker or settler and GS/Lego beat us to the Wonders.

Setting one city aside to be a shiled bank now is a good plan in my opinion, surely we could afford to lose one city out of our vast Empire couldn't we?

[Master Zen]

just got this from CH:

Hi MZ,

We can't hold off on Chemistry any longer, so we've had to start researching it ourselves. We'd have liked the Chem-Physics and Metallurgy-Magnetism, but we needed Chem last turn at the latest for that. It's a shame, as UnO's message to us agreeing the deal arrived 3 hours before you played 500AD, which would have been the right time for you to send us Chemistry.

I think the only way you can now get something for your Chem is to take some cash/incense from us for the remainder of our research, but that would likely be hard to agree on and arrange.

So the next likely deal is Physics for Metallurgy. What do you think of that?

Regards,

Cort

Err... AFAIK we hadn't given them an official yes or no on the deal and if that happened, it was never posted on the turn thread. Anyway, I'm sure there's a way around this:

What if we gave GS one turn equivalent of research in $$ to compensate for this lost turn? We can do this the turn immediately after getting Metallurgy. I would much rather sacrifice one turn that have to research a whole new tech which someone else already has.

Any ideas?

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Yeah, I hate wasting research.

[Hot_Enamel]

OK

[Master Zen]

Reply from CH:

It is good, as always, to hear from you, MZ.

Your offer appears spirited and principled, and perhaps some indication that this is a genuine mistake, and not another example of GoW's famed skill at manipulating GS during negotiations that, we are interested to note, is now a matter of historical record.

There is a slight balance issue. Chemistry is 60, Physics 64 =100 beakers on this level. We've used our gold to research Chemistry at deficit, spending 300 beakers.

Even disregarding the depreciated cost of Chemistry, we would therefore seek 400g to compensate. This might be more than one turn of your max gold, but it would enable the first deal and pave the way for the second.

One other thing - Lego mustn't get hold of Physics unless they research it themselves. 20 turns should be enough. I think that's mutually understood, and we'd respect a reciprocal NDA on Chemistry.

Regards,

Cort.

400g!!

Seriously that's a bit crazy. I don't think we can muster that even in 2 turns and even with ND help.

The sad thing, is that it's still better than having to research it ourselves...