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**Panzer32** · December 28, 2003, 17:46

[Zayxus> Sorry for the lack of time
[Zayxus> Aggie should check the security of Pamplona and Alamo, before gifting these cities?
[Zayxus> Because there is one turn of GS in between
[Zayxus> ND should check the streets for workers of GOW
[Panzer32> GS is not attacking, they are at peace with us
[Zayxus> Oh, and GS cant see, if a city is gifted in between, right then
[Zayxus> ND has to do with clearing jungle, GOW would support by workers, could GOW also build a street at east coast north-south?
[Zayxus> This would be possible only in many turns
[Panzer32> unfortunatly we have not but one or two workers over on the east coast
[Panzer32> most workers are in the west, but they are moving eastwards graduallyt
[Panzer32> I will see what I can do in about 10 or so turns.
[Zayxus> Are you involved in deciding for streets and cities?
[Panzer32> you are thinking for defence?
[Zayxus> Yes.
[Panzer32> I am in control of all the workers as Consul of Internal Affairs
[Zayxus> which kind of guard?
[Zayxus> .. at the coast
[Panzer32> I only have control of the cities given to me, mostly around yellowknife
[Zayxus> that is an interesting job-sharing
[Zayxus> How many cities could GOW afford - not to get to much corruption?
[Panzer32> we have about 14 units in the east as well as Legoland's knights which will only go until GS leaves
[Panzer32> I don't know, I haven't really calculated that
[Zayxus> Between Mavdad and vanished Toledo there is no street
[Zayxus> some units as guards may be better than corrupt cities pruducing curruption
[Panzer32> we could probably move a few units from the south to be lookouts on the east coast
[Panzer32> what are you trying to say?
[Zayxus> At the moment there are units of ND.
[Zayxus> It would be better to improve the fewer cities around the center than settling all of the area.
[Zayxus> All together, let us gather some time to get the people of ND and GOW become used with the new situation on continent Bob and with the consequences.
[Panzer32> ok
[Zayxus> I'll set the chat protocoll into the forum of ND and watch the response.
[Panzer32> ok, see you later
[Zayxus> yes see you later

thats it.

**Master Zen** · December 29, 2003, 19:17

Well done Panzer, I agree with what was said

**Panzer32** · January 1, 2004, 13:16

I think there is another chat today...

**Aggie** · January 1, 2004, 13:33

I'll be there from 1-2:30 CST, then I have to go to New Years dinner.
Aggie

**Panzer32** · January 1, 2004, 19:09

Session Start: Thu Jan 01 13:27:18 2004
Session Ident: #gow_cofa
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Panzer32> Aggie, Private message me when ND gets here
aggie> hi there. ok
aggie> I might take a quicker shower first though
aggie> also i have some bad news about yellowknife, the extra cites have raised it corruption
aggie> but the CH in Tralfalgar has really helped
aggie> I was wondering, if we changed the build in Yelowknife to CH could we actually save time. Currently we are 34 from completion
aggie> I'm not sure it would save us enough shields to ake it worth while on the otherhand we do make a ton of shields there before corruption. if we could get it to say 7spt we'd send up at worst even
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Zayxus> hi
Panzer32> which extra cities aggie?
Panzer32> hi Zayxus!
aggie> hi there zarxus
aggie> i mean zayxus
aggie> the new ones panzer
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aggie> happy new year
Zayxus> happy new year
Panzer32> aggie - but what new ones? What new cities?
aggie> I guess the gifted ones. it raised the total number so that raised corruption+ the citesa re close to the capital than yellowknife so it raised corruption there
Panzer32> ok
aggie> sorry I missed the other chats I has christmas dinner and a wedding to go to
Zayxus> it is all right. I did chat with Panzer32
aggie> I saw much was done. Also we are 2 turns for a worker at alamo, I was thinking of gifting it after the worker is produced
aggie> that worker would then help at full speed in the deep south
Zayxus> thank you
Zayxus> Did GOW get more corruption?
aggie> in yellowknife mainly
Zayxus> GOW builds a ForbiddenPalace there?
aggie> yap
aggie> but over all our Science went from 14? to 156 so we are doing better
aggie> i mean 144
Zayxus> But the ForbiddenPalace is important, too?
Panzer32> what new cities do we have this turn?
aggie> the one near DDD
aggie> i was wondering if we changed YK to CH could we actually save time. I'm not sure
aggie> we better get started i have to leave in about 4omin to go to NEW Years dinner
Panzer32> how about we gift ND back the city for corruption reasons?
Zayxus> How about to gift TheAlamo and Pamplona?
aggie> I don't know if they'd matter since they are further from capital
aggie> but pamploma is fine
aggie> then we can get the Alamo in 2 turns after the worker is built
aggie> i mean gift
Panzer32> it might help, as it will reduce total # of cities
Zayxus> That would be fine for GOW and ND.
aggie> then PAmploma is yours, hopefully you canget some production from it
Zayxus> in 440AD, next turn?
aggie> i'll gift it this turn
Zayxus> That would be fine.
Zayxus> Another topics: science and NewMadrid
Zayxus> What is going to happen about GS on the Continent?
aggie> they said they would raze those cities if we couldn't come to agreement
aggie> in a way barcelona could be better built anyway
Zayxus> which agreement did GOW expect?
aggie> thgey wanted chm for those cities but i belivev we rejected it
aggie> also they didn't want us to gift them to you,that right there is a deal killer
Zayxus> Would GOW like to get and keep these cities?
aggie> they don't really serve a purpose to us(ecept a lux), too corrupt
aggie> in c3c they could be useful(with the strong specialist) but currently they aren't
Zayxus> Right, the same is for ND. GOW could build workers there to move to cities in the north?
Zayxus> .. as new citizens?
aggie> yap we could but its a long trip also with 1spt it takes a while
aggie> also i don't know its worth giving GS a hand up on chem
Zayxus> No deal with chenistry to GS, my opinion.
Zayxus> No deal with chemistry to GS, my opinion.
Panzer32> yeah, my opinion as well
aggie> ok then we'll let them raze and be rebuilt
aggie> barcelona should be 2sw of where it is anyway
Zayxus> GS has to go from the continent.
aggie> and with the irrigated wheat a city near new madrid will grow quickly
aggie> they will
aggie> there armies already are gone
aggie> at least from what i see when i satrt the turn
Zayxus> but GOW could not look into a city...
aggie> well they have units in it
aggie> both are open
aggie> part of me says I and GOW agreed not to attack retreating units, NOT open cities
Zayxus> Topic: Would GOW like to sent workers to clear jungle at Trippolis first?
aggie> panzer your on
Panzer32> we send to wherever you want
Panzer32> next turn provide Aggie with orders for 6 workers SW of Macao (is that city correct Aggie?)
aggie> yap
Zayxus> up to now : ND gave 8 citizens to GOW and about 6 shilds/turn
aggie> pamploma will help aliitle there
Zayxus> by my calculation the terrains for GOW would have all together 28 citizens and over 30 Shields/turn, just my facts.
Zayxus> Right, Pamplona would help it.
aggie> i understand and hopefully our Workers with their industrious trait can help do jungle
Zayxus> (I meant shields without corruption)
aggie> i see 6 workers goign south and we have 3 already near paamploma. Also the extra worker from alamo will help
Zayxus> Thank you very much.
aggie> any sugeestion for the pamploam workers
aggie> i was thinking about roading another cow
Panzer32> I have to go to lunch now...
Zayxus> ah yes, what about a road to P. first?
Zayxus> bye P.
Zayxus> ND is already building a road, did you see?
aggie> yap
aggie> the unit is a 1 turn raod team, so that makes life easier to figure
Zayxus> ND needs 2 turns

Zayxus> ... more
aggie> the indust advanatage, but the movement there would have eaten up the time saving so it works out well
Zayxus> would you build a road there then to P.?
Zayxus> ... or better on the cow.
Zayxus> (sorry there are 2 cows, does not matter which)
Zayxus> Topic: research for chemistry: what are the costs in the sum?
aggie> well as of last turn it was 888 to chem. we were making 148/turn not we are at 156 and have several libaries but thatwant be ready fro2 turns
aggie> we are 5 and lose around 75gpt
aggie> but the last turn I'd say we can cut it down with the science improvesment(even an university)
aggie> maybe even the last two
Zayxus> did you get my mail about calculating the costs?
aggie> yes
Zayxus> what much would ND have to spent to get Chemistry fairly?
aggie> just the gpt will do it
Zayxus> all right then
aggie> the last turn I think you don't have to worry about it too,
aggie> so 4 more turns of 75
aggie> or even 70
Zayxus> but I would like to know, how you would calculate it.
aggie> i need to go to the dinner, so i need to go
Zayxus> next 4 turns 70G in stead of 80G?
aggie> you know i don't really know, what I did this time was see howmuch to get it, then used pamploma for a scientist until it lowered it a turn. so that how i figured 888 lwft last turn
aggie> that will work
aggie> well i must go, sorry for running off so quick
Zayxus> me too, thank you.
Zayxus> bye
aggie> welcome
aggie> bye
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Zayxus> Panzer32, anything more ? I also have to do something (here it is evening)
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