2nd attempt at a Public Announcement

[Panzer32]

I was under the impression that we are skipping Bilbao... so that they land troops in the south not the north I guess.

Anyways, I would attack Bilbao too

[Hot_Enamel]

Yep I know we were supposed to skip it.

But I want to take it now....to show that we are not bluffing.

Plus, it is too dangerous allowing them a port city. They can land & attack in the same turn.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

I say take both Toledo and Bilboa. Let's make them haul their troops to Madrid and Barcelona.

[Hot_Enamel]

We dont think we can take Toledo this round ??

Plus.. it does not give them an option to back down.

Hmmm...
If we can take both...then do it... but I would give GS a full 24 hours to offer up an alternative...maybe they will gift it to us ??
Maybe they have 20 knights in south Whoreplay now..perhaps they will attack RP for us for a free city ??

Who knows... just give them time to respond. But I agree to take both cities ASAP

[UnOrthOdOx]

They have an NAP with RP, they will not attack RP.

They already answered saying we cannot so much as set foot inside their border and insulted us for not having even attacked RP.

Take Toledo, Bilbao if possible. Let's see what Madrid looks like after RP gifts it to GS by asking Vox to investigate it. I want Madrid, and I want all GS units off of Bob.If it were possible, I would say start raiding Estonia, but I will bet GS has wall of units around it's boarder, preventing naval assaults.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

They've had over 24 hours and there only response has been BS while they reinforce their cities and march troops up to Toledo with its walls.

[Panzer32]

Originally posted by Hot_Enamel
We dont think we can take Toledo this round ??

because we can't. Next turn, we will be able to take both but not this turn. This turn we can only take Bilbao if need be.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Then we hound them about their dishonor, and hopefully anger them enough to do something stupid until we "chastise" them more appropriately.

Still once they start moving troops onto Bob, it might be a splendid opportunity to land an invading force of Riders on Estonia to pillage all the improvements around their cities and capture/disband their workers and cities.

[Master Zen]

I also want to take both Bilbao this turn and Toledo the next. This is the last straw... such a flagrant violation of the NAP MUST be made public but we must lure them into it.

I think we should send them another message, an even stronger worded statement and give them 12 hours to reply. If not, we publically hound their honor code and ridicule them in public.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Originally posted by Master Zen
I also want to take both Bilbao this turn and Toledo the next. This is the last straw... such a flagrant violation of the NAP MUST be made public but we must lure them into it.

I think we should send them another message, an even stronger worded statement and give them 12 hours to reply. If not, we publically hound their honor code and ridicule them in public.

I think we should take Bilbao and Toledo simulataneously so as they may think we can still be pacified and might actually try to honor something.

[Hot_Enamel]

Gentlemen,

If we made the public announcement 2 turns ago, we could of been facing 2 undefended cities this round.
While we keep screwing around diplomatically with GS, they keep shipping troops over.

We must be a complete joke to those guys. They think we are scared of them, and are unwilling to go to war with them.

I am pleading with my team... make the announcement, and send a response back to GS that tells them what lengths we are willing to go to to.

I remind us all we used this once before when Vox landed a settler on our continent. We had 1 horseman in the area, Vox had 3 immortals. We told them in clear terms, that they disband/gift us the city, or their will be war.... Vox caved in.

I dont think GS will do the same... but the tactics must remain the same.

The longer we wait... the bigger bombshell we have to drop.

I am not going to rewrite what I think should be said...but.. how about this....

While GS remains on our continent, the nations of ND & GoW will approach Vox & Lego with the intention of agreeing to a tech embargo against the Whoreplay/GS team. This embargo will continue for the duration of the game, until a UN can be built, where all of our nations will Vote for Lego.

It would be great to get Lego & Vox to agree to this now...but we can always make the threat.


Please Please Please [b]stop[b] trying to out negotiate GS. They are just buying time so they can ship the bulk of their troops to Bob.

Tale Bilbao this turn. and if we can (not sure if we have the movement to do so) invade Toledo. if we get lucky with our first riders, then pile everyone in.
If GS have 6 knights.. and we only just get the citywith our last rider...then raze it to the ground.

Then ask ND what they want to do ?
Raze whatever holding they have got so far, retreat home and use our GA's peacefully ?

Or slog it out ?

[Panzer32]

I don't think were negotiating with GS anymore; were taking Bilbao this turn I thought.

About making a public announcement, I am neutral. Master Zen?

[Hot_Enamel]

Just make sure it's a bombshell for GS.

Something that is really going to rock them.

But give them an out ...
ie get off bob, and we can lift the embargo.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

The only announcement I think we should use in the main forum is UnOrthO's

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

If I get no other comments in the next hour and a half I am sending GS the proposed response:

Proposed Response:

There is no Non Agression Pact, you have already violated it by engaging in hostile activity against us. Your attempts to put words in our mouth is a testement to how well Roleplay is controlling you. No longer do you honor your agreements but attempt to disguise the breaking of them with flowering words.

To take cities right before we attack them, not all at once mind you just cities we prepare to attack, and then demand our troops withdraw is HOSTILE ACTIVITY. Slowing down and detouring our troops is HOSTILE ACTIVITY, Giving Inchon to Roleplay to move vast numbers of troops to invade Bob is HOSTILE ACTIVITY. Landing large numbers of troops on Bob with your fleet is HOSTILE ACTIVITY. You have dishonored the NAP not once, but repeatedly, and left us with NO OTHER COURSE FOR SURVIVAL but to defend ourselves and the worthless paper you refuse to honor.

GhengisFarb, Ambassador to GS.