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Witness my finest shrewd arab trader impression and how RP is denied Chivalry without ending up cursing us (at least in public)
Session Start: Thu Jul 03 14:35:31 2003
Session Ident: #July
[14:35] * Now talking in #July
[14:35] [MasterZen] where do you come up with those names...
[14:35] [BigFree] :-/
[14:35] [BigFree] I dunno
[14:36] [Togas] any chance we can grab a ND guy?
[14:36] [MasterZen] so, whats up?
[14:37] [BigFree] so, if all of Bob asks GS for such a condition on lux deals, we can get some securioty for our continent
[14:37] [MasterZen] no ND in the main room..
[14:37] [MasterZen] we're asking them the same thing but they're stubborn MFers...
[14:38] [BigFree] GS stated that they want to be able to declare wa on a momnts notice
[14:38] [BigFree] GOOD
[14:38] [BigFree] LOL
[14:38] [BigFree] we ask for the same thing already
[14:38] [BigFree] without colaberation
[14:38] [BigFree] they ask if I would accept a 3 turn notice
[14:39] [BigFree] I said I would get bak to thme
[14:39] [MasterZen] I wonder if ND is also doing this... although really they are the noes who are least affected... it's us two which have more to fear
[14:39] * BigFree sets mode: +o MasterZen
[14:39] [BigFree] Well, we could get ND to trade them spices
[14:39] * Panzer32 has joined #july
[14:39] [Togas] I actually find it amusing that GS is stuck on terms like this.
[14:40] [Panzer32] hi there
[14:40] [Togas] greetings
[14:40] [BigFree] Security for our continent, form outside invcasions....
[14:40] * BigFree sets mode: +o Panzer32
[14:40] [MasterZen] GS just wants freedom of action
[14:40] [BigFree] If ND doesn't gor for, we can suspect something from them then
[14:40] [MasterZen] perhaps
[14:40] [BigFree] maybe a GS ND alliance
[14:41] [MasterZen] a 3 turn warning.. hahaha... you have 3 turns to prepare for a 7 galley invasion...
[14:41] [BigFree] BTW, I detected that someone got Chiv last turn
[14:41] [BigFree] wouldn't be GoW would it?
[14:41] [BigFree] 12: 4) 1
[14:41] [Togas] I wonder who that might be...?
[14:41] [MasterZen] nah, it was probably Vox :P
[14:41] [BigFree] How much?
[14:42] [BigFree] LOL
[14:42] [MasterZen] wait, let me put my best Arab street trader voice
[14:42] [BigFree] hehe
[14:42] [MasterZen] salaam, you know Chivalry is most important tech these days, effendi
[14:43] [BigFree] most definately, the highest of the high techs!
[14:43] [MasterZen] I give you it, say, 500g, cheap!
[14:43] [MasterZen] and cheap Afghan rug for 100g extra!
[14:43] * BigFree bends over double form the stomach pains
[14:44] [BigFree] why did you hit me like that?
[14:44] [MasterZen] ah you think I give bad price? Ahmed over there sells for 700g!
[14:44] [BigFree] LOL
[14:44] [MasterZen] and Ibrahim? you don't want me tell you what price he give you...
[14:44] [BigFree] HAHA
[14:44] [BigFree] you should be on RP!
[14:45] [MasterZen] my name would be "Sheik Yerbouit the Moor"
[14:45] [MasterZen] *Yerbouti
[14:45] [BigFree] HAHA
[14:45] [BigFree] what about 250?
[14:46] [Togas] LOL!!
[14:46] [MasterZen] what? you think Sheik Yerbouti is a fool? chivalry worth much more than that effendi!
[14:46] [BigFree] um 300?
[14:46] [MasterZen] look, for 250 I give you, eh, Persian rug...
[14:47] [BigFree] how about a GS WM ontop?
[14:47] [MasterZen] or free tickets to Sultan Ashtar's trendy nighclub in Beirut
[14:48] [Panzer32] we don't need a GS WM
[14:48] [BigFree] 12: 4( 1
[14:48] [Togas] we don't have anywhere near 500g
[14:48] [MasterZen] plus, are you sure you're going to get it? the WM that is...
[14:48] [Togas] we don't even have 200g, so whatever we agree to will suck the hell out of us in GPT.
[14:48] [BigFree] what if we offered some extra luxes?
[14:48] [MasterZen] look, here's the deal
[14:49] [BigFree] or even Iron!
[14:49] [MasterZen] iron?! bah! we arabs don't need iron effendi, we need oil!
[14:49] [MasterZen] we piss oil
[14:50] [BigFree] LOL
[14:50] [MasterZen] we do our garden and oil comes out
[14:50] [MasterZen] ok, now, ehem seriously
[14:50] [MasterZen] you understand how important chivalry is to us
[14:50] [BigFree] yes
[14:50] [MasterZen] and how important that we want a certain "window" of monopoly, kinda like the US had with the atom bomb
[14:51] [BigFree] and about not letting ND get it
[14:51] [MasterZen] that's why we will only offer it for an extremely outrageous price right now, but we will drop it soon
[14:51] [MasterZen] let's just say that if things don't get out of hand so to speak
[14:52] [Togas] we'll have to wait for the price to drop, then.
[14:52] [MasterZen] I'd say in about 10 turns (maybe less depending on the world situation) we'll bring it up for 200g or even 150g and a lux, something like taht
[14:52] [BigFree] when do youplan to trade/sell to ND?
[14:53] [MasterZen] when they give us 500g
[14:53] [BigFree] LOL
[14:53] [Togas] nice
[14:53] [MasterZen] they might be reaserching it themselves though
[14:53] [BigFree] where are you getting Engineering from?
[14:53] [BigFree] or Theology
[14:53] [MasterZen] from these textbooks I smuggled from the engineering school in college
[14:54] [Panzer32] Vox is engineering IIRC
[14:54] [BigFree] k
[14:54] [MasterZen] we're getting Theo from Lego
[14:54] [Togas] do you have a deal in place with them?
[14:54] [Togas] if not, we'd be happy to split costs with you.
[14:54] [Panzer32] yes we do
[14:54] [BigFree] hmm, we have it now
[14:54] [MasterZen] they put a no-trade clause for it though, although we'll gladly trade it once it's over
[14:55] [Togas] we have Theology
[14:55] [BigFree] they didnt put a no trade to us
[14:55] [MasterZen] doh
[14:55] [BigFree] cancel deal with them
[14:55] [BigFree] we give god deal
[14:55] [BigFree] or good
[14:55] [Togas] to our GoW allies
[14:55] [BigFree] depends on how you look at it
[14:55] [MasterZen] "god" deal? you make us god?
[14:56] [BigFree] sure
[14:56] [BigFree] if the price is right
[14:56] [Togas] a deal that's so good, God himself would be pleased
[14:56] [MasterZen] only one god, infidel! Allah! praise be he! Allah ackbar...!
[14:56] [MasterZen] that's it, you offend Allah, I no trade with you...
[14:56] [BigFree] LOL
[14:56] [MasterZen] I tell Ibrahim and Abdulla to sell 1,000g for chivalry
Session Close: Thu Jul 03 14:56:52 2003
Session Start: Thu Jul 03 14:56:57 2003
Session Ident: #July
[14:56] * Now talking in #July
[14:56] [BigFree] HAHA
[14:57] [MasterZen] haha... just kidding
[14:57] [Togas] LOL
[14:57] [BigFree] thatwas good
[14:57] [MasterZen] I'm in such a roleplaying mood today...
[14:57] [BigFree] 12: 4) 1
[14:57] [BigFree] seriously, can you back out of the deal with Legp?
[14:57] [MasterZen] I doubt it
[14:57] [Panzer32] I don't think we want to
[14:58] [MasterZen] plus, the team would have to agree to it also
[14:58] [BigFree] right
[14:58] [MasterZen] we might be opportunistic bastards but we don't break deals
[14:58] [BigFree] but we guarantee a bette deal than them
[14:58] [Panzer32] don't want to get on their bad side
[14:58] [MasterZen] well, we can set up some trade deals afterwards can't we?
[14:58] [BigFree] you signed a deal already?
[14:58] [Togas] certainly
[14:58] [Panzer32] BF, do you have education?
[14:58] [Togas] but let this be a lesson, you guys need to TALK TO US
[14:59] [BigFree] not yet panzer
[14:59] [Togas] we'd love to "go halfsies" with you in the future
[14:59] [MasterZen] we can still coordinate research, it's not too late...
[14:59] [Panzer32] aha!
[14:59] [BigFree] sure
[14:59] [MasterZen] a lot of new techs will soon be viable: invention, astronomy...
[14:59] [BigFree] do us one favor?
[14:59] [MasterZen] kill GS?
[14:59] [BigFree] let us know when you attack ND
[14:59] [MasterZen] sorry, too weak
[14:59] [Togas] ok, 2 favors...
[14:59] [Panzer32] we're waiting for engineering from vox then we're going for invention
[15:00] [MasterZen] see, the thing is that the tech tree narrows right now
[15:00] [MasterZen] we have more civs than available techs, that means tech whoring is really out of the question, rather tech "sharing"
[15:00] [Panzer32] yeah... maybe if you guys go for astonomy...
[15:00] [Togas] we may go Printing Press as Lego is on Education.
[15:01] [Panzer32] ah
[15:01] [Togas] after education, we'll certainly go Astronomy
[15:01] [MasterZen] I have a feeling Lego might go for Music Theory
[15:01] [MasterZen] afterwards
[15:01] [Togas] we think so too
[15:01] [MasterZen] wonder what GS will go for...
[15:01] [Panzer32] they dont need astronomy
[15:01] [Togas] Such things are top secret
[15:01] [Togas] they'd never tell
[15:01] [MasterZen] like their stupid map
[15:03] [BigFree] 12: 4( 1
[15:04] [MasterZen] are you guys going for Sistine's?
[15:05] [BigFree] well, we were
[15:05] [MasterZen] but?
[15:06] [Togas] it was either Sistine's or a bad-ass army.
[15:06] [Togas] we went with army.
[15:06] [Panzer32] Was Aidun disapointed??
[15:06] [MasterZen] Lego's probably gonna snatch it then
[15:06] [Togas] he still is
[15:06] [BigFree] very
[15:06] [BigFree] he cried
[15:07] [Panzer32] ouch... I hate to see a pope cry
[15:07] [Togas] but he also wants us to build cathedrals...
[15:07] [MasterZen] when you get Motorized Transport will you make him a pope-mobile?
[15:07] [Togas] we will We'll name 1 unit after him.
[15:08] [MasterZen] the Pope Panzer
[15:15] [Togas] one thing I wanted to bring up
[15:15] [Togas] Just for you to consider ... as we had this problem in the Vox/GS war.
[15:15] [MasterZen] no, I said no deals. You talk with Ibrahim... that's it.. :P
[15:15] [MasterZen] haha
[15:15] [MasterZen] go ahead
[15:16] [Togas] we got involved way too late because we needed Feudalism and had to wait to get it.
[15:16] [MasterZen] Togas, it would have made no difference. GS got Feudalism just a few turns after Vox invaded, that was the catalist.
[15:16] [Togas] If something happens ... like you guys sneak attacking ND, or GS getting involved with Bob, and we don't have Chiv yet, we're not going to be very mobile.
[15:17] [MasterZen] if something like that happens we will most likely seal a deal with you on Chivalry very quickly
[15:17] [Togas] right now we have stacks of Inf ready for interior defense, but not a mobile fighting team that Chivalry would provide
[15:17] [Panzer32] yeah, like MZ said
[15:18] [BigFree] cool
[15:18] [Togas] gotcha. Just keep us in mind. Vox didn't warn us in advance for the GS attack ... if they had, we could have been more helpful.
[15:18] [BigFree] we would likely back you on a war with ND, but let us know before hand
[15:18] [MasterZen] oh, if we have any plans against ND we'll let you know, we won't take them on alone
[15:18] [Togas] if something is brewing, please get in touch with us to make this deal.
[15:18] [BigFree] give us a little notice
[15:18] [BigFree] more than 2-3 turns
[15:19] [BigFree] we can make it hut!
[15:19] [MasterZen] right know we want to see "what is brewing". Us getting Chivalry is like the moment everyone is holding their breath for
[15:19] [BigFree] *hurt
[15:19] [Togas] Actually we WOULD back you in a war against ND ... nothing "likely" about it.
[15:19] [BigFree] ture
[15:19] [BigFree] true
[15:19] [BigFree] we will keep it a secret that you have it
[15:20] [MasterZen] I doubt it's a secret
[15:20] [BigFree] are you supposed o trade it to ND at any time?
[15:21] [MasterZen] I trade if the have money, effendi!
[15:21] [MasterZen] if not, Ibrahim or Abdulla sell to them, that no good
[15:21] [MasterZen] but as I said, they're probably reasearching themselves...
[15:21] [MasterZen] that's what I would do if I were them :P
[15:22] [BigFree] dont count on it though
[15:22] [Panzer32] If we do trade it to them we would suck them dry and they wouldn't be able to upgrade anyways... its a hot issue on GOW.
[15:22] [BigFree] hehe
[15:22] [BigFree] I think they may ave went for Eng
[15:23] [BigFree] since Vox has no Eng deal with them
[15:23] * Panzer32 sets mode: +o MasterZen
[15:23] [Togas] anyhow, let's play hardball with GS for some sort of turn-warning before breaking the lux deal.
[15:23] [BigFree] yes
[15:24] [Togas] Should you guys need a few of our luxes in the future, ask.
[15:25] [Togas] I gotta get some work done. Take care
[15:25] [BigFree] adios
[15:25] * Togas has left #july
[15:26] [BigFree] anything else?
[15:26] [MasterZen] you still want Afghan or Persian rug, effendi?
[15:28] [Panzer32] How about some genuine Trafalgar chop suey? Much better than Spanish squid, I must say.
[15:29] [Panzer32] anyone know if there is a centre tag for the forums?
[15:29] [MasterZen] nope
[15:29] [Panzer32] nuts ]
[15:30] [Panzer32] I'm currently writing "On the Origins and Practices of the Blockheads"
[15:30] [Panzer32] a semi-autobiographical work
[15:31] [BigFree] lol
[15:34] [MasterZen] I'll have to write "On the Origins and Practices of the Zenheads"
[15:40] * BigFree is now known as BigFree|Away
[16:43] * Panzer32 has quit IRC (Quit: )
[17:19] * Disconnected
Session Close: Thu Jul 03 17:19:06 2003
Session Start: Thu Jul 03 14:35:31 2003
Session Ident: #July
[14:35] * Now talking in #July
[14:35] [MasterZen] where do you come up with those names...
[14:35] [BigFree] :-/
[14:35] [BigFree] I dunno
[14:36] [Togas] any chance we can grab a ND guy?
[14:36] [MasterZen] so, whats up?
[14:37] [BigFree] so, if all of Bob asks GS for such a condition on lux deals, we can get some securioty for our continent
[14:37] [MasterZen] no ND in the main room..
[14:37] [MasterZen] we're asking them the same thing but they're stubborn MFers...
[14:38] [BigFree] GS stated that they want to be able to declare wa on a momnts notice
[14:38] [BigFree] GOOD
[14:38] [BigFree] LOL
[14:38] [BigFree] we ask for the same thing already
[14:38] [BigFree] without colaberation
[14:38] [BigFree] they ask if I would accept a 3 turn notice
[14:39] [BigFree] I said I would get bak to thme
[14:39] [MasterZen] I wonder if ND is also doing this... although really they are the noes who are least affected... it's us two which have more to fear
[14:39] * BigFree sets mode: +o MasterZen
[14:39] [BigFree] Well, we could get ND to trade them spices
[14:39] * Panzer32 has joined #july
[14:39] [Togas] I actually find it amusing that GS is stuck on terms like this.
[14:40] [Panzer32] hi there
[14:40] [Togas] greetings
[14:40] [BigFree] Security for our continent, form outside invcasions....
[14:40] * BigFree sets mode: +o Panzer32
[14:40] [MasterZen] GS just wants freedom of action
[14:40] [BigFree] If ND doesn't gor for, we can suspect something from them then
[14:40] [MasterZen] perhaps
[14:40] [BigFree] maybe a GS ND alliance
[14:41] [MasterZen] a 3 turn warning.. hahaha... you have 3 turns to prepare for a 7 galley invasion...
[14:41] [BigFree] BTW, I detected that someone got Chiv last turn
[14:41] [BigFree] wouldn't be GoW would it?
[14:41] [BigFree] 12: 4) 1
[14:41] [Togas] I wonder who that might be...?
[14:41] [MasterZen] nah, it was probably Vox :P
[14:41] [BigFree] How much?
[14:42] [BigFree] LOL
[14:42] [MasterZen] wait, let me put my best Arab street trader voice
[14:42] [BigFree] hehe
[14:42] [MasterZen] salaam, you know Chivalry is most important tech these days, effendi
[14:43] [BigFree] most definately, the highest of the high techs!
[14:43] [MasterZen] I give you it, say, 500g, cheap!
[14:43] [MasterZen] and cheap Afghan rug for 100g extra!
[14:43] * BigFree bends over double form the stomach pains
[14:44] [BigFree] why did you hit me like that?
[14:44] [MasterZen] ah you think I give bad price? Ahmed over there sells for 700g!
[14:44] [BigFree] LOL
[14:44] [MasterZen] and Ibrahim? you don't want me tell you what price he give you...
[14:44] [BigFree] HAHA
[14:44] [BigFree] you should be on RP!
[14:45] [MasterZen] my name would be "Sheik Yerbouit the Moor"
[14:45] [MasterZen] *Yerbouti
[14:45] [BigFree] HAHA
[14:45] [BigFree] what about 250?
[14:46] [Togas] LOL!!
[14:46] [MasterZen] what? you think Sheik Yerbouti is a fool? chivalry worth much more than that effendi!
[14:46] [BigFree] um 300?
[14:46] [MasterZen] look, for 250 I give you, eh, Persian rug...
[14:47] [BigFree] how about a GS WM ontop?
[14:47] [MasterZen] or free tickets to Sultan Ashtar's trendy nighclub in Beirut
[14:48] [Panzer32] we don't need a GS WM
[14:48] [BigFree] 12: 4( 1
[14:48] [Togas] we don't have anywhere near 500g
[14:48] [MasterZen] plus, are you sure you're going to get it? the WM that is...
[14:48] [Togas] we don't even have 200g, so whatever we agree to will suck the hell out of us in GPT.
[14:48] [BigFree] what if we offered some extra luxes?
[14:48] [MasterZen] look, here's the deal
[14:49] [BigFree] or even Iron!
[14:49] [MasterZen] iron?! bah! we arabs don't need iron effendi, we need oil!
[14:49] [MasterZen] we piss oil
[14:50] [BigFree] LOL
[14:50] [MasterZen] we do our garden and oil comes out
[14:50] [MasterZen] ok, now, ehem seriously
[14:50] [MasterZen] you understand how important chivalry is to us
[14:50] [BigFree] yes
[14:50] [MasterZen] and how important that we want a certain "window" of monopoly, kinda like the US had with the atom bomb
[14:51] [BigFree] and about not letting ND get it
[14:51] [MasterZen] that's why we will only offer it for an extremely outrageous price right now, but we will drop it soon
[14:51] [MasterZen] let's just say that if things don't get out of hand so to speak
[14:52] [Togas] we'll have to wait for the price to drop, then.
[14:52] [MasterZen] I'd say in about 10 turns (maybe less depending on the world situation) we'll bring it up for 200g or even 150g and a lux, something like taht
[14:52] [BigFree] when do youplan to trade/sell to ND?
[14:53] [MasterZen] when they give us 500g
[14:53] [BigFree] LOL
[14:53] [Togas] nice
[14:53] [MasterZen] they might be reaserching it themselves though
[14:53] [BigFree] where are you getting Engineering from?
[14:53] [BigFree] or Theology
[14:53] [MasterZen] from these textbooks I smuggled from the engineering school in college
[14:54] [Panzer32] Vox is engineering IIRC
[14:54] [BigFree] k
[14:54] [MasterZen] we're getting Theo from Lego
[14:54] [Togas] do you have a deal in place with them?
[14:54] [Togas] if not, we'd be happy to split costs with you.
[14:54] [Panzer32] yes we do
[14:54] [BigFree] hmm, we have it now
[14:54] [MasterZen] they put a no-trade clause for it though, although we'll gladly trade it once it's over
[14:55] [Togas] we have Theology
[14:55] [BigFree] they didnt put a no trade to us
[14:55] [MasterZen] doh
[14:55] [BigFree] cancel deal with them
[14:55] [BigFree] we give god deal
[14:55] [BigFree] or good
[14:55] [Togas] to our GoW allies
[14:55] [BigFree] depends on how you look at it
[14:55] [MasterZen] "god" deal? you make us god?
[14:56] [BigFree] sure
[14:56] [BigFree] if the price is right
[14:56] [Togas] a deal that's so good, God himself would be pleased
[14:56] [MasterZen] only one god, infidel! Allah! praise be he! Allah ackbar...!
[14:56] [MasterZen] that's it, you offend Allah, I no trade with you...
[14:56] [BigFree] LOL
[14:56] [MasterZen] I tell Ibrahim and Abdulla to sell 1,000g for chivalry
Session Close: Thu Jul 03 14:56:52 2003
Session Start: Thu Jul 03 14:56:57 2003
Session Ident: #July
[14:56] * Now talking in #July
[14:56] [BigFree] HAHA
[14:57] [MasterZen] haha... just kidding
[14:57] [Togas] LOL
[14:57] [BigFree] thatwas good
[14:57] [MasterZen] I'm in such a roleplaying mood today...
[14:57] [BigFree] 12: 4) 1
[14:57] [BigFree] seriously, can you back out of the deal with Legp?
[14:57] [MasterZen] I doubt it
[14:57] [Panzer32] I don't think we want to
[14:58] [MasterZen] plus, the team would have to agree to it also
[14:58] [BigFree] right
[14:58] [MasterZen] we might be opportunistic bastards but we don't break deals
[14:58] [BigFree] but we guarantee a bette deal than them
[14:58] [Panzer32] don't want to get on their bad side
[14:58] [MasterZen] well, we can set up some trade deals afterwards can't we?
[14:58] [BigFree] you signed a deal already?
[14:58] [Togas] certainly
[14:58] [Panzer32] BF, do you have education?
[14:58] [Togas] but let this be a lesson, you guys need to TALK TO US
[14:59] [BigFree] not yet panzer
[14:59] [Togas] we'd love to "go halfsies" with you in the future
[14:59] [MasterZen] we can still coordinate research, it's not too late...
[14:59] [Panzer32] aha!
[14:59] [BigFree] sure
[14:59] [MasterZen] a lot of new techs will soon be viable: invention, astronomy...
[14:59] [BigFree] do us one favor?
[14:59] [MasterZen] kill GS?
[14:59] [BigFree] let us know when you attack ND
[14:59] [MasterZen] sorry, too weak
[14:59] [Togas] ok, 2 favors...
[14:59] [Panzer32] we're waiting for engineering from vox then we're going for invention
[15:00] [MasterZen] see, the thing is that the tech tree narrows right now
[15:00] [MasterZen] we have more civs than available techs, that means tech whoring is really out of the question, rather tech "sharing"
[15:00] [Panzer32] yeah... maybe if you guys go for astonomy...
[15:00] [Togas] we may go Printing Press as Lego is on Education.
[15:01] [Panzer32] ah
[15:01] [Togas] after education, we'll certainly go Astronomy
[15:01] [MasterZen] I have a feeling Lego might go for Music Theory
[15:01] [MasterZen] afterwards
[15:01] [Togas] we think so too
[15:01] [MasterZen] wonder what GS will go for...
[15:01] [Panzer32] they dont need astronomy
[15:01] [Togas] Such things are top secret
[15:01] [Togas] they'd never tell
[15:01] [MasterZen] like their stupid map
[15:03] [BigFree] 12: 4( 1
[15:04] [MasterZen] are you guys going for Sistine's?
[15:05] [BigFree] well, we were
[15:05] [MasterZen] but?
[15:06] [Togas] it was either Sistine's or a bad-ass army.
[15:06] [Togas] we went with army.
[15:06] [Panzer32] Was Aidun disapointed??
[15:06] [MasterZen] Lego's probably gonna snatch it then
[15:06] [Togas] he still is
[15:06] [BigFree] very
[15:06] [BigFree] he cried
[15:07] [Panzer32] ouch... I hate to see a pope cry
[15:07] [Togas] but he also wants us to build cathedrals...
[15:07] [MasterZen] when you get Motorized Transport will you make him a pope-mobile?
[15:07] [Togas] we will
We'll name 1 unit after him.[15:08] [MasterZen] the Pope Panzer
[15:15] [Togas] one thing I wanted to bring up
[15:15] [Togas] Just for you to consider ... as we had this problem in the Vox/GS war.
[15:15] [MasterZen] no, I said no deals. You talk with Ibrahim... that's it.. :P
[15:15] [MasterZen] haha
[15:15] [MasterZen] go ahead
[15:16] [Togas] we got involved way too late because we needed Feudalism and had to wait to get it.
[15:16] [MasterZen] Togas, it would have made no difference. GS got Feudalism just a few turns after Vox invaded, that was the catalist.
[15:16] [Togas] If something happens ... like you guys sneak attacking ND, or GS getting involved with Bob, and we don't have Chiv yet, we're not going to be very mobile.
[15:17] [MasterZen] if something like that happens we will most likely seal a deal with you on Chivalry very quickly
[15:17] [Togas] right now we have stacks of Inf ready for interior defense, but not a mobile fighting team that Chivalry would provide
[15:17] [Panzer32] yeah, like MZ said
[15:18] [BigFree] cool
[15:18] [Togas] gotcha. Just keep us in mind. Vox didn't warn us in advance for the GS attack ... if they had, we could have been more helpful.
[15:18] [BigFree] we would likely back you on a war with ND, but let us know before hand
[15:18] [MasterZen] oh, if we have any plans against ND we'll let you know, we won't take them on alone
[15:18] [Togas] if something is brewing, please get in touch with us to make this deal.
[15:18] [BigFree] give us a little notice
[15:18] [BigFree] more than 2-3 turns
[15:19] [BigFree] we can make it hut!
[15:19] [MasterZen] right know we want to see "what is brewing". Us getting Chivalry is like the moment everyone is holding their breath for
[15:19] [BigFree] *hurt
[15:19] [Togas] Actually we WOULD back you in a war against ND ... nothing "likely" about it.
[15:19] [BigFree] ture
[15:19] [BigFree] true
[15:19] [BigFree] we will keep it a secret that you have it
[15:20] [MasterZen] I doubt it's a secret
[15:20] [BigFree] are you supposed o trade it to ND at any time?
[15:21] [MasterZen] I trade if the have money, effendi!
[15:21] [MasterZen] if not, Ibrahim or Abdulla sell to them, that no good
[15:21] [MasterZen] but as I said, they're probably reasearching themselves...
[15:21] [MasterZen] that's what I would do if I were them :P
[15:22] [BigFree] dont count on it though
[15:22] [Panzer32] If we do trade it to them we would suck them dry and they wouldn't be able to upgrade anyways... its a hot issue on GOW.
[15:22] [BigFree] hehe
[15:22] [BigFree] I think they may ave went for Eng
[15:23] [BigFree] since Vox has no Eng deal with them
[15:23] * Panzer32 sets mode: +o MasterZen
[15:23] [Togas] anyhow, let's play hardball with GS for some sort of turn-warning before breaking the lux deal.
[15:23] [BigFree] yes
[15:24] [Togas] Should you guys need a few of our luxes in the future, ask.
[15:25] [Togas] I gotta get some work done. Take care
[15:25] [BigFree] adios
[15:25] * Togas has left #july
[15:26] [BigFree] anything else?
[15:26] [MasterZen] you still want Afghan or Persian rug, effendi?
[15:28] [Panzer32] How about some genuine Trafalgar chop suey? Much better than Spanish squid, I must say.
[15:29] [Panzer32] anyone know if there is a centre tag for the forums?
[15:29] [MasterZen] nope
[15:29] [Panzer32] nuts ]
[15:30] [Panzer32] I'm currently writing "On the Origins and Practices of the Blockheads"
[15:30] [Panzer32] a semi-autobiographical work
[15:31] [BigFree] lol
[15:34] [MasterZen] I'll have to write "On the Origins and Practices of the Zenheads"
[15:40] * BigFree is now known as BigFree|Away
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