Official Military Dtrategy Thread

[Master Zen]

Discuss Military Dtrategy here!!

I'm a bit strapped for time, I'll probably post in the weekend, meanwhile, where are our warmongers? Aggie? Donegeal? Uber?....


Ok, here's the map that ND passed to me during today's chat. Basically they divided the front into 6 sectors (1 and 6 being naval sectors).

Due to jungle problems we have more or less agreed that the main military effort will be to the east at front 5. We will most likely get 8-10 riders over there. They say they will have about 10 Ansars.

We have been talking about taking out their iron with a naval assault. Also, they have a swordsman deep inside RP territory (see the south-east).

For the front #6, we have also discussed the possibility of sending our galleys to prevent a RP landing behind the lines.

More thoughts later on...

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

We need to be prepared for when ND turns on us. Our back up plan to counter attack ND has been dealt a blow because the counterstrike site, Macao was moved farther away from ND.

ND is most assuredly selling our maps to Lego and GS and we need to NOT GIVE THEM OUR MAPS. I noticed in the latest save they are giving maps and I thought we had already discussed holding back our maps from them but I will state it again.

[Master Zen]

During the negotiations on the Lego deal, Lego actually put our world map on the table which makes it also possible that ND had not sold them our map (that was about 4 turns ago)


As for an ND backstab... well it's a possibility we must consider but we'll get nowhere if we simply try and protect ourselves from every possible backstab in existence. We are taking a risk in this war, so be it.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

After RP is gone is the most likely time for ND to attack, as we will be divided. That is when we need to have a counter attack force ready.

[Hot_Enamel]

Hopefully our GS will allow us to continuously pump pump out extra riders & pikes between city imrovements.

Not the best solution...but I dont see any other options.
Our RP army turns North
Our new army hits south

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

So we should move some foot troops onto the Galleys at Port Isolation and move them south while we start moving out the Upgraded Riders along the East?

[Panzer32]

If we can spare some from home defence, then sure. If we can't then no way. And I believe we can't.

The other option is if the Vox war goes well and it turns out that it isn't necessary to send troops. We can then divert the two pikes southward, while the horseman and spearman go and get upgraded.

[Master Zen]

Originally posted by GhengisFarb
After RP is gone is the most likely time for ND to attack, as we will be divided. That is when we need to have a counter attack force ready.

Well, if they are smart they'll realize that two straight wars will leave them in the dust compared to GS and Lego building their way into prosperity...

[Hot_Enamel]

If I were ND, I would be trying to ensure RP spreads its forces out along the entire front.

I have been studying the map, and something like this might work.
It’s a work in progress, but perhaps it can be the basis of another plan or just refined a little better as it is.

A worker will need to immediately build a road through jungle south of Marlowa.
This worker will be covered by a contingent of Pikes.
Role Play will freak when they see these units, but ND can claim they are just clearing jungle.

RP will shuffle many of their troops to this central location expecting that this would be ND's "invasion road"

Additionally, ND also sends out 2 galleys with 4 Medieval Infantry to Lego's continent.
Lego will spack it, and we may get free protection money.

When the road is finally built, ND removes its troops, and war is declared.
GoW attacks in bulk in the east, with some minor ND ansar support.
If we are lucky, we can catch them out of position and destroy or capture Bilbao and then Toledo.

Roleplay will think they have been caught by a ruse, and will shift units east to meet our forces, and to protect their capital.

Next round, ND lands its galleys & Medieval Infantry on RP's Iron. (Site "I")

ND also sends a settler and a bunch of Pikes back onto the road, and onto Site A.
ND units will be vulnerable at Site A, but they are covered with a river and jungle bonus's, and hopefully RP's units will be totally out of position.

Next round, ND uses their settler to build a city.
ND now has free access for their ansars to attack multiple cities.

If they choose Santiago, they can then move their Pikes into the city for a walled protection, and disband their new city on the same round.

This will still allow ND free access into RP territory for their ansars. Who can stop off at Santiago for 1 round of rest before going into battle.

Santiago gives ND access to 3 different cities to attack.
Zaragoza, Leon, and Vigo, if the Medieval Infantry don’t take the city.

GoW's Riders and a small contingent of Ansars continue the easten front and push towards the RP Capital.
ND pushes their attack from the west.

RP will have to choose to defend their Northern Border cities, or rush home to defend their capital.

They cant do both.


Hopefully, if ND is "tight" with GS, and if GS want a little payback on RP, GS can build an embassy with RP, and investigate which cities are least defended.
GS should be cashed up, and afford the investigations. We can negotiate on sharing the cost.


I can already see 1 huge problem…How fast can ND workers cut a road through jungle ?

[Hot_Enamel]

Another thing that must be discussed.

Who do we sell Chivalry to.

ND is a must...but lets negotiate the payment.
ND has done no reseach, and must be cashed up...we should get gold not gpt from
them.

Lego has given us a good deal. 2 techs for Chivalry and our world Map.
Plus a no retrade caluse for 20 turns.
The deal is to happen on the turn they get Education, so it would be terrible to
waste such a valuable deal.
We will have to trust them they do not break the 20 turn agreement.

Vox do not have any horses, and is unlikely to pay us very much for it.
Assuming they are still alive, I suggest we forget about them.

GS are expecting us to sell it to them for 200g
We have always confirmed that we would do the trade, but have been telling Vox
that we would never do it.
If Vox & GS negotiations break down, and the war restarts, selling Chiv to GS
will be Vox's death warrant.
The 200g is badly needed by us but the biggest concern, is if GS resell it to
RP.
ND say they are friends with GS...but our relationship has not been clear.
We screwed them on their Fuedalism, they may want to do the same to us.

Roleplay is expecting Chivalry from us.
As soon as we say no, they will expect a double cross.
During a chat with GF, he made the suggestion that we should sell it to them and
drain their gold as much as possble.
This was under the assumption, that someone will sell Chiv to RP anyway, so it
might as well be us.
But I think RP will insist on a gpt, as they have done nothing but claim to be
poor in every discussion we have had with them.
The question is... who can we trust not to sell Chiv to RP?
ND - No
Lego - 20 turn no resell
GS - ???? hopefully not.
Vox - we dont sell it to them anyway.

In the next GS chat, we must bring this up in a sly way.
Ask if they will give us a 10 turn no trade, like we honoured with them.
Perhaps ask ND of their exact relationship with GS, and what is their opinion.


Regs

[Master Zen]

Very interesting plan H_E

I'll bring it up in the chat

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

I still think we should sell it to RP for a bunch of gold up front, and if they don't have it they can start saving up for it.

[Panzer32]

I'm going to start a new thread about chivalry, I was planning to.