Do we want a City Infocenter thread?

[FrustratedPoet]

In the next post should be a table showing the current status of our cities - it's incomplete and very much a work-in-progress at present. I just want to get some feedback before I put time into updating and polishing it.

Questions:
1) Is this useful? HTML tables are a nightmare to manipulate, but I don't mind updating this table for each turn if people will find it helpful.

2) Does anyone have any better ideas about how we can display this information? I had thought of an Excel file - much easier to maintain - but I don't know how to get it to appear in a post. Screenshots wouldn't be practical. Is there a better way?

[FrustratedPoet]

Name
 
Size
 
Buildings
Garrison
Producing


Eye of the Storm
 
10 - 4
 
CITYBUILDING
CITYGARRISON
War Chariot 1

Tempest
 
6 - 4
 
CITYBUILDING
CITYGARRISON
Pikeman 3

Bolderburg
 
6 - 11
 
CITYBUILDING
CITYGARRISON
War Chariot 1






Tornado
 

6 - 20
 

CITYBUILDING


CITYGARRISON


War Chariot 1







Typhoon
 

5 - 13
 

CITYBUILDING


CITYGARRISON


Galley - 2







Hurricane
 

11 - 4
 

CITYBUILDING


CITYGARRISON


Pikeman - 2








Cyclone
 

4 - 1
 

CITYBUILDING


CITYGARRISON


Worker - 2







Sandstorm
 

1 - 1
 

CITYBUILDING


CITYGARRISON


Worker - 5






Monsoon
 

1 - 3
 

CITYBUILDING


CITYGARRISON


Temple - 14






Whirlwind
 

1 - 20
 

CITYBUILDING


CITYGARRISON


Catapult - 10






Olibanum Gate
 

1 - 6
 

CITYBUILDING


CITYGARRISON


Temple - 8






Arashi
 

4 - x
 

CITYBUILDING


CITYGARRISON


Walls - 1






Sufa
 

3 - 6
 

CITYBUILDING


CITYGARRISON


Galley - 5

[FrustratedPoet]

If somebody who knows HTML could edit the above post and work out why there is a huge blank space above the table I would be very grateful.

It's got me stumped!

[Arrian]

Good work.

A request, though I know it means more work, sorry:

Can we have a column for barracks/no barracks? That way, we don't look at a city w/o barracks and suggest building units there.

-Arrian

[FrustratedPoet]

Good idea, Arrian, I'm doing that now.

Also, I'm still very confused about why the table has a big blank space above it. I saved the code as a text file with the .html extension, loaded it up in IE and it looked perfect. Why won't it work in the forum? Anyone know?

[Shiber]

I think that's what we have the buildings column for. Still, you raise a good point - if we have something like this, it's important that we can see immediately which cities have barracks. I suggest that barracks that appear in the list of buildings for a city will be bolded or colored or something.
I'd also suggest a column titled "Infrastructure", which could contain the values none, lacking (not all worked land tiles are fully improved), sufficient (all worked land tiles are fully improved) and overdone (or any other name that fits; all worked land tiles and some additional tiles within the city radius are fully improved).
This could turn out to be very useful. We can all keep it up-to-date thanks to the editing bug. It needs to be formatted into a more editing-friendly form first - I can do this later, after we've agreed on the structure of the template.

Dunno about the HTML thing though, sorry. This is not the first time I see this problem - perhaps you should ask in off-topic what is wrong with your code.

[FrustratedPoet]

Originally posted by Shiber

This could turn out to be very useful. We can all keep it up-to-date thanks to the editing bug. It needs to be formatted into a more editing-friendly form first - I can do this later, after we've agreed on the structure of the template.

Thanks.

What follows (prolly miles down the page ) is a more updated layout. I'm off now to get some actual data from the save to go into those cells.

Name
Size
Buildings
Barracks?
Garrison
Producing




Eye of the Storm

10 - 4

CITYBUILDING

RAX??

CITYGARRISON

War Chariot 1



Tempest

6 - 4

CITYBUILDING

RAX??

CITYGARRISON

Pikeman 3



Bolderburg

6 - 11

CITYBUILDING

RAX??

CITYGARRISON

War Chariot 1



Tornado

6 - 20

CITYBUILDING

RAX??

CITYGARRISON

War Chariot 1



Typhoon

5 - 13

CITYBUILDING

RAX??

CITYGARRISON

Galley - 2



Hurricane

11 - 4

CITYBUILDING

RAX??

CITYGARRISON

Pikeman - 2



Cyclone

4 - 1

CITYBUILDING

RAX??

CITYGARRISON

Worker - 2



Sandstorm

1 - 1

CITYBUILDING

RAX??

CITYGARRISON

Worker - 5



Monsoon

1 - 3

CITYBUILDING

RAX??

CITYGARRISON

Temple - 14



Whirlwind

1 - 20

CITYBUILDING

RAX??

CITYGARRISON

Catapult - 10



Olibanum Gate
 

1 - 6
 

CITYBUILDING

RAX??

CITYGARRISON

Temple - 8



Arashi

4 - x

CITYBUILDING

RAX??

CITYGARRISON

Walls - 1



Sufa
 

3 - 6
 

CITYBUILDING

RAX??

CITYGARRISON

Galley - 5

[FrustratedPoet]

Yep, it's done it again.

I'll PM Markos about this, I'd rather not post the code in the OT because that would mean having to edit out all the sensitve data first.

[FrustratedPoet]

Slight problem: I can only note the Garrisons for each vity from the BEGINNING of the turn, not the end - because that's all I see when I open the save. Without knowing every single move Nathan made I can't know how things were moved around.

Unless Nathan (or whoever plays the turn) wants to update the Garrisons in this table every turn then the info will always be 1 turn behind. Does greatly devalue the usefulness of this table? Shall I even bother with the Garrison column?

[Aeson]

Make sure to wrap all html in the CODE /CODE tags (in []'s)

[FrustratedPoet]

Name
Size
Buildings
Barracks?
Garrison
Producing



Eye of the Storm

10(4)

Palace
Granary

YES

-

War Chariot 1




Tempest

6(4)

-

YES

Vet: WC

Pikeman 3




Bolderberg

6(11)

-

YES

-

War Chariot 1




Tornado

6(20)

-

YES

-

War Chariot 1




Typhoon

5(13)

Temple

-

-

Galley 2




Hurricane

11(4)

Great Lighthouse

YES

Vet: Sword (2)

Pikeman 2




Cyclone

4(1)

Granary

-

-

Worker 2




Sandstorm

1(1)

-

-

-

Worker 5




Monsoon

1(3)

-

-

-

Temple 14




Whirlwind

1(20)

???

???

???

Catapult 10




Olibanum Gate
 

1(6)
 

-

-

-

Temple 8




Arashi

4(x)

-

YES

Vet: Spear (2), Sword (1), WC (2)
Reg: Sword (2), Warrior (1)

Walls 1




Sufa
 

3(6)
 

-

-

-

Galley 5








77 of Eots

1 Vet WC



9 of Arashi

1 Vet Sword



999 of Arashi

1 Vet WC, 1 Elite WC



99996 of Arashi

1 Elite WC



9 of Hurricane

1 Reg Sword



6 of Monsoon

1 Vet Spear, 1 Reg Warrior

[Aeson]

and you don't need the HTML or BODY tags... just the table itself (that's what the smaller gap left is)

[FrustratedPoet]

I'm a fool!

Aeson:

It needs some formatting work, but that's a huge help.



Markos: If you ever read this, sorry to have bothered you with the PM.

[Aeson]

It's one of those things that just isn't that intuitive IMO. I had the same problem myself back when I first was trying to post tables.

[asleepathewheel]

FP:

Great idea, sorry you couldn't make it to the chat