Turn 85, 900 BC

[zeit]

Damn, no tech from Vox?

I PM'ed Beta yesterday, maybe it got too late...

Well, he said "thank you" and that they'll send it right away.

[Harovan]

Oops, sorry, I forgot to mention. Here's it in bold, so that everyone catches it: Vox gifted us Monotheism. So we're going to research Feudalism.

[DeepO]

So that's also been taken care of. Should we start negotiations with other teams on ways to sell MT?

BTW: eta on Feudalism? (roughly, of course). And would a tech analysis be possible, so we see how many teams have gotten techs, like rep, and constr?

DeepO

[Harovan]

Feudalism in 13 turns at 60%, that leaves us with +2 or so. And concerning Republic and Construction: How can we analyze the cost of techs we already have? I can say for sure, nobody has Feudalism and Engineering yet.

I'm holding the turn. We need to discuss the worker issue (2 workers), and if we want to switch Tornado from vet warrior back to war chariot. Also, it would be good to discuss the location of our 2nd iron city.

[zeit]

Please offer Mono to ND- there's nothing wrong in trying, and it worked last time.

I'll contact HotE and GF about Mono, although i'm sure the Bobians got it from Vox somehow, and maybe sold it to Lego as well.

If those Legos got Mono from Bob, it means they're really havn't picked up on what DeepO urged them to.

[Aeson]

The worker 87 from Arashi finished roading. Valid options are mining, going onto the iron to road it, or to return to the "mainland".

Mine either of the bonus grassland up there.

The worker 6 of Typhoon finished roading the forest. I suppose he's to be sent to the remaining fur forest, to road it (or chop?)

Yes, just to road it.

[Harovan]

Playing the turn now.

I set research to 60% and start Feudalism. Tornado remains building a warrior, ready next turn. A few vet swordsmen/medinfs can't hurt, we probably get tu knights in 25 turns or so, many can happen during this time. I send the spearman out of EotS after the settler, and the warrior Crush out of EotS north, to replace the lookout spearman, who also can go then towards the border. But we should be careful with that, we soon will be able to upgrade the spearmen, and need them in a barracks city for this.

Lego already has Monotheism, can't offer.

Finishing the turn now. 30 minutes for complaints.

[Harovan]

Turn and screenshots sent.

[alva]

Lego already has Monotheism, can't offer.

So they did get it from Vox?
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Voxes little excurion on the mainland has cast us very dearly

[Aeson]

Had to be from Vox. I wonder what they got for it? If it's our 80 gold, we should ask for it from Vox...

[zeit]

Voxes little excurion on the mainland has cast us very dearly

Hmm... add that to the casus belli list

[DeepO]

I was thinking on what they could have asked as a 'good deal'. I wouldn't be surprised if they said to Vox something similar as to us: we give Curr+Constr, GS gives Rep, and Vox gives MT. Which wuold mean some of our 80 gold would be given to Vox, perhaps even 40 gold or so (splitting the difference).

Also, I can imagine Lego didn't mind to sponsor Vox a little, not only will it mean more instability to Bob (they hope, it could be exactly the opposite), but also it would mean they hamper us a little. And in their PoV, maybe GS will be the team to beat in the end, if they can be relatively sure we won't attack them, and do everything in our power to disrupt Bob. We can't mind that, we do the same... I would certainly want closer relations to Lego, but only if it would advantage us more then it would advantage them.

The problem is, there is no way of finding it out: we can't simply ask Lego, and neither Vox. I'll try to ask "beside my nose" () how they got it, but we can't ask them directly, as it might offend them. We do not want to appear as patronizing Lego, even if this is exactly what we want to achieve.

DeepO