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  • Deal with Lux, Presented for ratification

    NYE, Dominae, Theseus, and I had a nice chat with Lux, and we worked out a tentative agreement that not only offers significant potential gains but also leaves our team and theirs on good terms. The key points of the deal is as follows (quoting from where we recapped it in the chat log, warts and all). Do we want to ratify this agreement? (It could give us a nice chunk of gold, but could force us to research Map Making ourselves if we can't obtain it from another team on terms that allow its resale. On the other hand, if we don't make the deal, we can expect the gold to go to our rivals.)

    [22:59] < nye_Gone > 1. Lux will move no unit more than 1 tile from Portia. That means adjacent.
    [22:59] < Trip > LoL Dominae
    [23:00] < nye_Gone > 2. Portia will be left ungarrisoned so that we can verify your forces.
    [23:00] < nye_Gone > 3. Vox will be limited to one defensive unit in your territory, plus however many workers they see fit to send.
    [23:01] < nye_Gone > 4. Lux will not sail South from Portia.
    [23:01] < nye_Gone > 4a. Lux will not approach the Southern lands from another direction.
    [23:02] < Dominae > That's not review.
    [23:02] < Trip > 3a. GS will never move a unit adjacent or closer to Portia
    [23:02] < nye_Gone > yes
    [23:03] < nbarclay > 4a is clarification to close a possible loophole. That's a legitimate function of review.
    [23:03] < Trip > don't ask me how we'd approach GS from any direction but south
    [23:03] < Dominae > I'm fine with it, but it's not what we discussed. As long as Trip is okay with it.
    [23:03] < nye_Gone > 5. Writing and MM will be purchased from GS for 150 gold and the Lux map.
    [23:04] < nbarclay > Lus WORLD map.
    [23:04] < nbarclay > Lux
    [23:04] < nye_Gone > yes. Lux World Map. In game.
    [23:04] < Dominae > Yeah, not the 9-tile one...(sorry!)
    [23:04] < Trip > LoL
    Edit: Note that 150 gold and the Lux world map is the total price for the two techs. It will be paid something along the lines of 50 for Writing and 100 for Map Making or, if Lux goes along with what I pushed, 60 and 90 (with the map, obviously, coming as part of the second stage).

    Also, there was an understanding that we would provide Map Making within 20 turns, so we'd need to either trade for it or start researching it fairly quickly.
    11
    Yes, accept the deal.
    90.91%
    10
    No, reject it. (Please explain what you think we should do instead.)
    9.09%
    1
    Abstain
    0.00%
    0

  • #2
    They also agreed to gift us HBR as a good faith gesture.
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    • #3
      It sounds like you got us a good deal ... assuming Lux keep to their word, which is something they don't have a good track record of. But at least in this situation we can squish them easily if they start messing us around - so I think they'll play fair.
      If I'm posting here then Counterglow must be down.

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      • #4
        Good work

        How do we explain this to the other continent if they happen upon the city or the galley as it crosses the channel? Show them pics with it in vox colors and named dissidentville?

        How long will it take for them to build one settler, one spear (or warrior) and one galley? The longer they are here, the more likely the ruse is to be discovered.

        edit: of course, anyone with half a brain will figure out after a few turns exactly what happened, once they scour the lands for a settler.

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        • #5
          After the team collectively decided to let Lux live, this deal is probably the best we can get. I approve it.

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          • #6
            Excellent deal. We get all that we wanted, without looking like extortionists and with no bloodshed.
            "Close your eyes, for your eyes will only tell the truth,
            And the truth isn't what you want to see,
            Close your eyes, and let music set you free..."
            - Phantom of the Opera

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            • #7
              oh... damn, posted in the turn thread before reading this. Seems fine, for the moment. I would have asked for a full screenshot of what they already can see, as a guarantee that we're going to get their map.

              as to MM: GoW will get it within 20 turns, why not start a deal with them instead...

              DeepO

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              • #8
                Fine by me. We got money & the map (which is potentially a very big deal) and they present zero threat.

                -Arrian
                grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                • #9
                  hmm, the only way I see them getting this approval from Lego, is that Lux will provide with them techs.
                  Something that will probably hurt us.
                  IMHO Lux is still doing the same thing (aquiring/selling tech) they have been doing all along.
                  They just changed partners...

                  How else are they going to pay for alllllllll of this!!!

                  Wouldn't it be easier btw, if they use the same trick with Lego as they did with Vox (change cities)?
                  Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
                  Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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                  • #10
                    I would have asked for a full screenshot of what they already can see, as a guarantee that we're going to get their map.
                    My feelings excactly!!!!!
                    Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
                    Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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                    • #11
                      Alva, one problem: they need contact with lego before swapping cities. And nobody has contact to lego yet...

                      DeepO

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                      • #12
                        Ah yes, true, ah, hmm
                        Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
                        Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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                        • #13
                          Just a thought, how about taking the galley out once the settler is in the boat and Vox has recaptured the city?

                          No one even would know it was us.
                          Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
                          Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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                          • #14


                            alva is

                            If I'm posting here then Counterglow must be down.

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                            • #15
                              Quite evil Alva.
                              I don't see how this could benefit us though. Whereas, telling GoW where the heck Lux is located/relocating to in exchange for money would be evil AND beneficial.
                              Have we sworn secrecy? Is there any limitation on whether and when we can tell another team about this?

                              Oh, and a definite for asking Lux for screenshots now as an assurance.
                              "Close your eyes, for your eyes will only tell the truth,
                              And the truth isn't what you want to see,
                              Close your eyes, and let music set you free..."
                              - Phantom of the Opera

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