Lux Invicta intelligence

[nbarclay]

By the way, remember that we worked a 1-food tile for three turns in order to get our first warrior finished before our chop, and that will almost certainly put our early population growth a bit farther behind. By 3800, we've lost a turn and a half's worth of food compared with if we had worked tiles with two food, so this is exactly the time when a civ that settled a turn later but worked a 2-food tile would pull ahead.

Nathan

[alva]

I got confused with the worker beeing changed
(city worker versus worker worker

[nbarclay]

When I think of it, I try to call the guys in the cities "laborers" to distinguish them from worker units. Of course that still leaves the times I don't think of it.

[DeepO]

Originally posted by nbarclay
By the way, remember that we worked a 1-food tile for three turns in order to get our first warrior finished before our chop, and that will almost certainly put our early population growth a bit farther behind. By 3800, we've lost a turn and a half's worth of food compared with if we had worked tiles with two food, so this is exactly the time when a civ that settled a turn later but worked a 2-food tile would pull ahead.

Nathan

Oh, that's probably it. you only see the change in pop when your city fills another row in the foodbox, so this only meant that Lux has proceeded on a +2 food basis. (while we were on +1). So, contrary to what was said before, we can now see that Lux does not have a cow, or wheat nearby

Also, seeing as we are now 7th in production would suggest that all civs are working a minimum of 2 shields atm. Nothing major...

DeepO

[notyoueither]

Lux has hit a major point.

Trip has halted the game for some sort of polling.

Likely they have made contact, but not necessarily.

[alva]

That would be quick, but not impossible.

What else could it be....?
They could have popped a hut, and discovered a tech or settler,......

I highly doubt it's good to news us, whatever it is.

BTW, shouldn't we have seen at least one hut by now? hmm, perhaps barbs are out.

[notyoueither]

A tech would not halt the game. A settler would.

Huts? No, we are not out of the realm of odds yet, by a long way.

[Meshelic]

I don't think the Lux Invictans found anyone yet. I spoke with Admiral PJ and though I'd expect him to keep quiet about something like that, I believe he just might have slipped me a hint unintentionally, but he said nothing of the sort....

Probably just found a settler, or locals in a hut gave them maps that shown someone else, and they're wondering whether to make contact or not...

How long did he say they were going to delay the game?

[alva]

It seems Lux and Demo found each other...

So If we find one, we know the other one is close..
(arn't I good in stating the obvious )

[Meshelic]

Originally posted by alva
It seems Lux and Demo found each other...

So If we find one, we know the other one is close..
(arn't I good in stating the obvious )

Yes Alva you're great at that!

Lux and Demo found each other? How did you find this out?

I take it this is the first contact ever between nations in this game?

[alva]

Lux hold up the game, so did the Demo guys... 1+1=2

(didn't even have to come to that conclusion myself ,
someone mentioned it in the 'save game' thread )

Strange, we have the most units out there, yet we havn't even encountered any barbs, huts,...., but they allready have made contact.

I doubt it's a good thing in the long run though, for Lux and Demo, if they havn't got enough room to expand....

[Meshelic]

You're right Alva, their meeting could precipitate an early war, which might result in the elimination of either the Luxians or Demogyptians.... (hey at least it will make the game go a bit more quickly).

Our own particular isolation on the peninsula will probably aid us in our growth, so that by the time we DO make contact, [depending on who it is] we will be in a much better position, especially if they are warlike...

[DeepO]

Originally posted by alva
Lux hold up the game, so did the Demo guys... 1+1=2

(didn't even have to come to that conclusion myself ,
someone mentioned it in the 'save game' thread )

Well... I didn't comment when I saw it, but why would meeting someone be such a big fuzz? From the Euro PBEM experience, I can see one possibility that needed immediate diplo contact, that is if one of the 2 (demo) had an unprotected settler in the wild, which Lux stumbled onto. That was the situation with alexman and me, and we did have some communication going as to try to strike a deal before I enslaved his settler. But, as Alex was in the advantage (he was 1 turn ahead of me), I was not able to strike, while it might be different with the Lux-demo relation.

Other things might apply, but simple contact does not mean you have to stop and poll about something twice, some kind of ultimatum has to be sent to demo, or to Lux in last turn. (meaning they counter proposed something, and demo needed a new poll to see if everyone would agree)

Otherwise, this whole thing is just a scam, and the 2 teams had something to decide which had nothing to do with each other (unlikely, I admit).

DeepO

[nbarclay]

The other possibility (and the first one that comes to my mind) is that they might have needed time to consider and negotiate a tech trade, or even a more complex long-term relationship between the two civs.

Nathan

[Meshelic]

Originally posted by nbarclay
The other possibility (and the first one that comes to my mind) is that they might have needed time to consider and negotiate a tech trade, or even a more complex long-term relationship between the two civs.

Nathan

That is definetely a possibility. It took us at least 3+ days to decide how we wanted to respond to the Lux Invictans, whatever decision they made they were relatively quick about it....relatively.

In such cases the Great Embassy should be prepared for what to do in case we make contact...., new thread potential there. I'll go make one.