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[notyoueither]

btw, I regarded it as a God send that TPR had posted in Mesh's thread prior to flash. That fact, the point that we were an even number at the time when we have mostly expressed a desire for an odd number, and the fact that I was sure TPR would wait led me to send flash the PM saying we were 'paused'.

btw, 'paused' does not denote halted.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by FrustratedPoet
I understand that there were very valid reasons for not letting Flash join the team. And I further respect that NYE wants to have the final say on who joins and who doesn't. That's cool, we made him Prez because we trust his judgement.

I do not want any veto on who joins and who does not, except... I will return to this in a bit.

re flash, I knew exactly who he was. I knew he was exactly the type who might go totally off the wall if he were not addressed ASAP. That is why I replied to his PM the way I did.

Returning to the issue of veto, I propose that any new member must pass a poll, with a twist. Many Some groups use an interesting approach known as the black ball. In these groups when a membership issue is voted on it is done so with a box containing marbles. There are many white balls and a few black. Each member in turn reaches into the box and deposits a ball into a third compartment. When each has done so, the contents of the third compartment are examined by all. If the deposited balls are all white, the applicant is accepted. If there is a single black ball, he or she is rejected.

That sort of system works with a small number of people. It ensures that no one is forced to coexist with someone completely anathema to them. It does require that people be reasonable and not petty with their choices.

If we do this, then we would post a poll with White, Black, Abstain as the only options. A single Black vote would deny the application. Abstain would have no effect. People granted admission would see the forum and see the number of voters. People denied would never see it.

[DeepO]

NYE, that system is cool for me, however it does mean unanimity, which might be hard to reach in a larger group... maybe adjusting it so that 1 black ball is accepted, but not more then that.

As to ManicStarSeed; I don't know him, and thus won't vote for nor against him. But, there is a need for more experienced demogame players right now, so if he comes from that side...

Flash is a different story, after all of this I went back and checked upon what he has posted over the past few months... he would receive a black ball from me. It's a pity he reacts the way he does, and I somewhat sympathise he can't join the group of AU people (as one of the few things he did was post in those threads), but really, he is not a group player, a loose cannon like the British would say.

I see no reason why we would need to provide lenghty explanations on the general board to explain us taking on another member, however, the announcement should be done in style. But if MSS has applied, is here to fill a specific post (that of demogamer), and is accepted by all members that is in no way contradictory to what we said before. I don't recall we said membership was closed, it's just not automatic anymore. This is not some elitist thing of ours, so if somebody takes it that way I will defend (diplomatically) us.

BTW: one of the worst things we could do now is that everyone responds to a single message: if there is one message, it should at most receive 2 replies. Otherwise we risk making things worse ourselves, instead of letting other teams do that.

DeepO

[Meshelic]

Originally posted by DeepO

BTW: one of the worst things we could do now is that everyone responds to a single message: if there is one message, it should at most receive 2 replies. Otherwise we risk making things worse ourselves, instead of letting other teams do that.

DeepO

I wholeheartedly agree. I'm thinking I'm going to be posting a whole lot less in the main forum (unless of course it's my job to do so as DiploScholaChief...) but I'm thinking we need to start watching what we say and being very careful about spamming. even though we're all guilty of it to some extent.

notyoueither is our leader so is in fact should be one of the main voices of the team in the main threads. The other voice should be the diplo chief. So someone run against me!

this is just an idea of how we go about things, I'm not saying "I declare this law!" or anything.

[DeepO]

Yeah, you're right when it comes to spamming... OTOH we need to handle certain situations quickly, to avoid that others spam them away. Because we're not the only one doing it either.

DeepO

[Meshelic]

Originally posted by DeepO
Yeah, you're right when it comes to spamming... OTOH we need to handle certain situations quickly, to avoid that others spam them away. Because we're not the only one doing it either.

DeepO

That is very true. We aren't the only ones doing it....however we are on the receiving end of several accusations, and in many ways those accusations are right. BUT there is definitely a need for quick response to any situation where our name comes up, whether it be good or bad.

I don't think all of us scrambling to defend ourselves is wise, but not defending ourselves isn't wise either.

[notyoueither]

nbarclay, OPD, and Soren have been added.

Welcome.

[notyoueither]

ManicStarSeed added.

Welcome.

[notyoueither]

I wanted this up here to keep track of F-P's poem. Does anyone remember the other poem written? The purpose of GS?

We gather...

[Shiber]

We have a purpose??!
Cool!

[Theseus]

Welcome aboard to the new team members!!

Jump in!

I know there is a lot to catch up on, but go ahead and ask any questions you have ASAP.

Things to focus on:

* The war on Bob... new viewpoints much welcome.

* Diplo, especially in the public forum.

* Intel, including capabilities analysis.

* Long-term strategy.

In general, we are a very open and communicative team, so throw out any ideas, critiques, outright disagreements, WHATEVER!

[Fried-Psitalon]

Heya guys. I'm here, but I don't know how often or how much. I'll try and catch up and get in on things ASAP, but with the beta test and all, I'm mildly busy.

My first loyalty is to making sure Apolyton wins THAT game.

Will help out as much/as often as I can though.

[Octavian X]

Hello, Friedrich. Nice to see you here, not in just the C3C forums and chat.

[asleepathewheel]

Boo to those lucky beta testers. Boo.

[Fried-Psitalon]

Is there a savegame thread somewhere?