Turn 219" 1040 AD

[asleepathewheel]

if you want to try again, I can send you an invite, OPD. just pm your first and last names and your email address. I think I have two left currently.

[Jon Shafer]

DeepO: NeroTrip (at) comcast (dot) net was full?

Don't know how that's possible, it's stored on my HDD, which definitely isn't full.

But strangely I found the proper save file in here... not sure where it went while I was looking for it before...

Will get this done tonight.

[Jon Shafer]

1030 AD -

ND can't send silks, GS already has them...
Cancel Silks deal, send back Silks and 500g accepted.

1040 AD -

Silks and 500g make it through to GS, accepted.

So that's it. ND should just replay with that in mind.

However...

There is the bug with the game where the turn a deal is renegotiated the effects are removed temporarily (so you'll still lose WLTKD and disorder will occur anyways, sorry ).

Edit: Though there is the F1 mechanic that can be used to get around it...

[DeepO]

Thanks Trip.

Oh, and it seems I got the wrong address, I got your hotmail one. You're in my address book a couple of times....

Do you notify ND (if you haven't done so already) on how to proceed? But from their explanation, it seemed to me they already did this.

Oh, and I know that even with the replay, we're going to lose WLTKD in EotS, but only in that city, none of the others. We planned to use the cityview 'hack' to update the correct information already... but now it wouldn't cost us anything, as we don't have to put citizens to entertainers. A big difference!

Thanks,
DeepO

[asleepathewheel]

well thats a relief, that it was just a bug and nothing sinister.

[DeepO]

foresting map from after this turn. Needed for the future, but please, use this resource wisely (which means: no foresting near WoC before we're building stuff that needs rushing. Only one tile remain, and it is being saved.)

DeepO

[Theseus]

I just opened the ND save... still not seeing silks, if I understood the purpose fo the replay.

[DeepO]

This hasn't been replayed yet? If so, I'll do it in a short while. And without silks, we're facing another delay...

One second please, allow me to get my things together, I just unboarded the plane less than an hour ago.

DeepO

[Jon Shafer]

Originally posted by Theseus
I just opened the ND save... still not seeing silks, if I understood the purpose fo the replay.

Well, I know when I replayed 1030 as ND they arrived for GS to accept on 1040. Either there's something really weird going on or ND isn't doing it right.

[DeepO]

Confirmed: ND only offers us the gold, not their silks.

Trip, how do we proceed on this? It's obvious something weird is happening, do we replay our turn 218, setting the lux slider to 10%, and doing exactly the same? I know it will have mean that EotS ends its build normally, instead of losing 2 shields to waste, however it does cost us some 70(?) in gold...

How do we prevent this reoccuring next turn? Is it on option that we end the silks deal on our turn 1030 AD, and let ND send the silks to us normally?

I'm posting a short message to the public forum, Trip, please look into this.

DeepO

[asleepathewheel]

can nd try again, but this time send the save to trip as well, so he can run through it to see if it crops up again? maybe he needs to chat with them when they're playing the game. lost in translation?

[Jon Shafer]

Well, you can request that ND play again, giving them step-by-step instructions on how to go about doing it properly (I'm rather busy right now, which is why it took me so long to help in the first place - if someone else did this it would help speed things up). Barring that, a replay at 10% lux may be your only option.

[DeepO]

Darekill was very specific in that he played it twice like that (so by cancelling the deal first, and then offering silks), so asking them to replay it, following it step by step isn't going to help. Something else needs to happen, or it won't be resolved.

Trip, setting lux to 10%: would that be okay for you? I'm in favor of it, even if it costs us a bit of gold.

DeepO

[Jon Shafer]

Sure, go ahead and replay your last turn.

[DeepO]

Okay, I'll try to work it in this evening, even if it's quite busy.

DeepO