Turn 189: 740AD

[Krill]

When is the meetting? if it is before 23:30, I can be there for about half an hour, if you need help.

[DeepO]

Arrian, you got my permision for that without any problem.

Other things I would suggest to discuss: future tech deals. If they want to push on, we can be at 4-turn pace for a long time to follow, if only we get enough funds. We will need 170 gpt atm, but this will increase drastically, and we should get some reserve. If we somehow can get 400 gpt from ND-GoW, we should consider nearly giving our techs away. Specific numbers are tricky to let out in the open, though...

What I don't agree to is giving them Electronics, and atomic theory. We should keep that advantage as long as possible. Every ally we give those techs to, will decrease the cost by 10%, meaning 480 beakers. Lego without GA will almost spend a turn on 480 beakers... ND and GoW not getting those 2 techs early, will mean 3-4 turns advantage for us on our race towards marines and tanks.

So we have to explain that to them: we can trade for them, but as they won't need them, it doesn't pay any of us any good if we already would give them. It's not that they require them as prereqs.

What is hot right now is Industrialisation. I propose we ask if they will sponsor us to get that tech fast. If we split the cost in 3, I would consider it a done deal: we supply beakers, they give us gold in return. (each 1/3 of the beaker cost in gold). Or sanitition, which is not that important to us as we will only really need it in 2 or 3 cities (we will build it in all cities that can use it, of course).

I would be highly interested in such trades, and to have a fixed date on it. Us doing Industrialisation, them doing RP and trade would be superb... with 3 teams, add sanitation to the mix. And with that in mind, we can start prebuilding our factories, so that they will more or less coincide with the arrival of industrialisation.

Also ask for lux: right now we can use it in a few cities to get from size 11 to size 12. And it would shield us from Lego's disrupation of lux, in case they do that.

DeepO

[Arrian]

Krill - don't know yet, for sure. I hoping MZ will respond to my PM and tell me.

Ok, DeepO, I will see what they say to each of them providing 1 luxury for 20 turns in exchange for electricity.

I will also pursue gold-for-industrialization.

The fallback on the luxuries could be a discount on industrialization (instead of splitting the cost evenly 3 ways, we could offer to take 1/2 the cost, and each of them 1/4, plus luxuries).

-Arrian

[Arrian]

No response yet from MZ, btw. I'll try and hang out online for about 3 hours, intermittently checking for him. If I don't meet up with him, I can send a PM with an offer instead.

-Arrian, who's going to finish cooking dinner.