Turn 175 : 600 AD

[asleepathewheel]

so looks like cope's won't be a problem for us, 14 turns.

Must be using it as a prebuild for something, or just screwing with us, though Imp city has everything else built, as far as I can tell, except for a cathedral and colleseum.

28 shields a turn -1 for waste, pretty good output. can grow one more citizen and shuffle around to break 30, but they're really sucking the life out of nearby towns by doing that. jesus that's too tight at this stage, imho.

looks like their whole cat army is there. Looks like they've built quite a few more (in addition to the ones they captured from us ) not upgraded to cannon yet (zero gold in treasury). Must not fear an ND invasion otherwise, one would think those would be dispersed a bit. why in one central location? puzzles.

[Arrian]

We must be careful. That city is capable of 28spt (currently at 27spt), which means 22 turns to ToE if they do it right, and have a prebuild for it (this means Universal Suffrage, I'd imagine).

-Arrian

[asleepathewheel]

why does imperial city have waste/corruption? they are republic like us. Is this an indication that they don't have their FP up? I never understood the mechanics of that stuff.

[Arrian]

Dunno what they're doing with all those cats up there.

The Riders, ok, since that way they're central.

You're right, it is 30spt capable... I missed that it was only size11.

-Arrian

[Arrian]

Eye of the Storm has waste/corruption too. 1 shield, 1 commerce.

-Arrian

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by Arrian
Eye of the Storm has waste/corruption too. 1 shield, 1 commerce.

-Arrian

I admit it, I have it opened in C3C, where EoTS has zero corruption but Imperial city does.

Weird.

I need to stop doing this, Lots of changes that I've been mixed up in the past on (such as using obsolete wonders as prebuilds, can't do that in C3C load)

[vmxa1]

As far as I am concerned the Sistine ploy is an exploit and should be denounced by all. It is nothing more than trying to gt over on everyone.

Yes the teams screwed up not spelling it out better, but none the less, it is not appropriate.

[Arrian]

I consider the Sistine thing to be in a gray area. The deal itself (promising not to build that wonder) is outside the realm of game mechanics, which I suppose is the problem. Anyway, I favor talking to GoW about it to see what they think.

If there is a general concensus amongst the teams that this is exploitish, I could see voiding the deal. But like I said, personally, I see it as a gray area.

-Arrian

[asleepathewheel]

I just noticed something else while running the save in C3C.


To me it looks like the chance for a cultural victory by any party has ended. I assumed that Lego with its large landmass and stability would run away with it, but according to C3c (assuming no translation problems ) lego only has a total of 4040 points. We have 3120. And legopolis has 1152. I don't think they can reach either 100k (with us less than 50k) or 20k in legopolis by either the time that the un is built or the time the space race is on.

[Arrian]

I was going to mention the culture thing myself. I have it open in ptw, but the culture graph and cultural advisor make it apparent that we've closed the gap nicely. We're 2nd in culture.

-Arrian

[Arrian]

What happened to Cort?

-Arrian

[Cort Haus]

The Turn

I've been doing this.

Start

Cyclone and Sandstorm build workers
Santa Ana builds Aqua, starts Lib
Blizzard builds lib, starts harbor
Inchoff builds aqua, starts harbor


Moves

irrigated SA-87 and Inchoff-74 and got ther midlands set up for this:

Inchoff Size 6, +2fpt, +6spt, starts harbor
Blizzard, Size11, +0fpt, +10spt, starts harbor.
Santa Ana, Size6, +2fpt, +6spt, begins library.
Dissidentville, Size11, +0fpt, +10spt, 11s in box, building courthouse.

Switched the mnt/hill tiles in Arashi/Tempest and added a worker to Arashi, working mnt for 21spt, -1fpt


Current Builds


from North to South :

Eli : Lib in 3
Inchon : Harb in 15
WoC : CH in 5
Inchoff : Harb in 14
Diss : Courthouse in 8
Santa Ana : Lib in 14
Blizzard : Harb in 8
Monsoon : Mkt in 6
Arashi : ToE prebuild in ~25 via Bank (5)
WW : Aqua in 12
Tempest : Newton in 8
Hurricane : Copernicus in 7
OG : Lib in 3
EotS : Cathedral in 4
BB : Magellan in 31 / Bank in 7
Tornado : CH in 7
Typhoon : Lib in 12
Sufa : Lib in 9
Cyclone & Sandstorm : Worker-pumps


City Sizes :

Eli : 6
Inchon : 5
WoC : 6
Inchoff : 6
Diss : 11
Santa Ana : 6
Blizzard : 11
Monsoon : 11
Arashi : 11
WW : 6
Tempest : 11
Hurricane :12
OG : 11
EotS : 12
BB : 12
Tornado : 11
Typhoon : 11
Sufa : 11
Cyclone & Sandstorm : 4-5


318g, -3gpt, Magnetism next turn.

[Cort Haus]

Diplo

Established embassy with GoW (see above)

[Cort Haus]

Turn sent

[asleepathewheel]

Good job.

this seemingly benign turn turned into something important.

good job all around.