What exactly is the deal with Unorthodox?

[Theseus]

Uh oh...

/me is off to view the carnage.

[Theseus]

This may sound a little cold, especially given all that we've gone through...

Henceforth, I would like all public forum posting to be considered a military/diplomatic action.

In otherwards, if you are not completely confident that what you are posting is in furtherance of GS' goals... don't do it.

Personal irritation, or the converse, being irritating, is of no use to us. We are having enough problems as it is.

Don;t flip out on me, Sir Ralph, but I'm gonna single out your poking a sharp stick into UnO's eye... it just wasn't necessary (really, don;t get mad, I'm just trying to be coldly rational here). I know it was fun, but what does it get us? UnO on a rampage, and everybody else seeing us flub relations in public.

And OPD, you too: Your initial flame at Darekill was... not called for, but more importantly, possibly detrimental to our future dealings with them.

Think of this as the Cold War... when Kruschev banged his shoe on the UN conference table, HE KNEW EXACTLY WHAT HE WAS DOING, and used an aide's shoe, no less!!

Or consider the dogpile arranged by Vox, DIPLOMATICALLY... we should all learn from Beta's example.

These flame threads are not helping, even though they may be fun in certain ways in the doing. Flame threads are WEAPONS, not toys.

We are either in this to win, or not.

[asleepathewheel]

I will try to lay off as well. HotEnamel is such a misguided *******, I can't help myself sometimes.

Any, the posts after mine tonight, (while away at the lobster eating dinner) were cool and collected, an improvement.

What would help, I think, is a public denouncement of what HE said, similar to how Ralph and I tried to moderate what OPD said. Until then, well....anyway, will have to just let it lie.

[Harovan]

Actually I hadn't to poke the stick into his eye, he had it already in when he launched at me. I could have ignored his assault just like I ignored Hot_Enamels assholish troll, but I think he's worth a response. But then, his rage got too ridiculous. I still think I pressed the brake soon enough, and in the other thread (War Weariness), where the discussion went then, had him already almost calmed down.

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by Arrian


Or I.

-Arrian

good job arrian, much calmer than I would have been

and CH-your post was quite good as well

[Harovan]

By the way, I wrote Darekill a private message earlier this evening, which is ... well ... private, will say in German. I apologized for calling his poem bad and explained it, that I wanted to detract the subject of the discussion from the blame of mudslinging, which is most certainly not the case. He's an ok guy and will understand it.

OPD's try to explain it with the tale of the Irish boy is not that bad of an example, but it failed, though. You can't talk logic and reason with trolls like Hot_Enamel. You simply can't. All you can do is giving them a cookie and lull them, just like Arrian and Theseus did.

Here goes a plea to all our team members. Never respond to posts of the main bull**** masters, such like Hot_Enamel and Master Zen. They aren't worth it, will turn the word in your mouth and generally any discussion will make things worse. Better ignore them.

[asleepathewheel]

PMs are good, I sent one to Uno last night saying blah blah I like your work, blah blah, but no response back, but at least I know he read it, even if he couldn't be arsed (or see through his anger) to respond. Every little bit helps.

[Theseus]

BTW, I do want to say that the VAST majority of GS' participation in these flame threads has been above reproach.

I just mean that I want to USE these situations, strategically, rather than just participating in ongoing vitriol.

For instance: I find it hard to believe that us friggin' 'masterminds' can't find a way to start a find between any of ND, GoW, and Lego.

We seemingly do need an "Evil Plan" member!

Hahaha!!

Can you imagine the consternation (and possibly humor) if we started advertising for one in the various threads?

POSITION AVAILABLE: Gathering Storm PTWDG Team - Evil Planner
Title: Director of Evil Plans
Function: Counter-balance to the Strat Forum mechanics
Primary Role: Diplomacy
Advancement: 1) SVP, Evil Plans; 2) President, Evil Planning subsidiary; 3) Lord High Ruler of Evil GS
Compensation: 1) A job well and evilly done; 2) Unlimited chicken meat... reaaallly evil
Please submit resumes, with examples of past evil thoughts, actions, results, etc., to: evil@gs.com

(little joke there: gs.com is Goldman Sachs )

[asleepathewheel]

Funnny, theseus

on Uno-

The guy is either pretty clueless or is just trying desperately to push our buttons.

Wants to restore Vox? Um, they fought an offensive war and were whipped, and they are only around because we allowed it.

Whats that BS about the gazette or whatever? Does he blame everything on GS or something? Maybe he's related to my wife, they both have long memories of things that have wronged them....

[Octavian X]

I wouldn't go as far as placing a morotorium on public posts. It's all in good fun, as now it's rather painfully obvious that we won't be gaining any new allies anytime soon, no matter what the hell we do.

[Theseus]

Not a moratorium... just a sense of serving our game-winning interests.

[Harovan]

I think it's worth to mention, that Darekill replied to my PM. Here's a slightly shortened translation:

lol...

The poem is bad, no doubt on that. My English is good enough to see this, and I already knew it when I wrote it.

The whole matter doesn't really bother me, the only thing I wonder about is the energy, which my "defenders" invest in my defense, but that shows only, that their true intent is not really to defend me, but just to play their dear old game "everyone launch at GS".

This was not what I wanted. Of course I wanted to taunt you a bit, but it wasn't meant offensive and that the bulk of you wouldn't like it, was clear from the beginning.

So between us is all fine, I think. I don't have a problem with anyone of you.

[Cort Haus]

Hey, thats good

[asleepathewheel]

Wow, so great that Darekill can see through the bs of what was going on

maybe we can work with these guys, clearly they (at least dk) don't hold odd grudges...

[Cort Haus]

Either they don't know what we tried to do, or they're rationalists and pretty cool about it. I'd assumed they knew, but we shouldn't blurt anything out.