What's the deal with GoW's "offering" peace to RP?

[asleepathewheel]

I've noticed in the Allies thread that GoW (Aggie and GF) have said somethings to the effect that they will give peace to RP. Is there anything to that? Is that in exchange for attacking us? EXchange for attacking ND? Is this also peace between them (ND) and RP? Anybody heard anything from the RP'ers about this?

There might be an opening here for some interesting moves.

[Arrian]

I think they're just ****ing around.

But that's just me.

I ingore GF on general principle.

-Arrian

[notyoueither]

This is Aggie as well. Aggie is not usually a bull**** artist.

[OPD]

Maybe they realize they're not going to get anywhere, and will get zero return from their millitary. As millitary is all they have that would effectively put them out of the game.

If they were to see past they're grudge against RP they could get alot more benefit from attacking lego land than from continuing the RP offensive.

This kinda reminds me of the GS3 pbem, should China attack the real threat and just see their armys cancel each other out or should they make an offensive against the badly defended weaker nation.

The only way they can get a return for their army is to attack the badly defended Legos, rather than continue in a war that will likely result in a stalemate.

[asleepathewheel]

You dont' think we could get maintain the appearance of this war while all three (excepting RP) attacks lego?

[Cort Haus]

Heh heh. Yeah, settle our differences then all go and jump Lego. Then GS must surely win

[DeepO]

RP peace offering: only some ruse IMHO... GoW is trying to get some discussion going amongst us. They have been provoking us the whole thread long, and got quite a bit of info out of it. They must think their propaganda is working again

DeepO

[Arrian]

The problem with trying to get ND & GoW interested in a hit on Lego is ensuring Lego doesn't hear about it.

There is almost no chance of that, IMO. In order to negotiate a joint operation, there must be trust between teams. I think we all agree that we could trust ND. I don't think many here would trust GoW. I don't think many in GoW would trust us. Therefore, I see an impasse.

-Arrian

[Cort Haus]

If RP have not heard anything from GoW thru their diplomatic channels, then maybe it is just a ruse. Also, if it were serious, wouldn't ND have an opinion about it?

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by Cort Haus
If RP have not heard anything from GoW thru their diplomatic channels, then maybe it is just a ruse. Also, if it were serious, wouldn't ND have an opinion about it?

Right, there can't really be a bilateral peace treaty unless they allied to defeat ND. (Or us)

[Cort Haus]

I've PM'd our two RP contacts asking them if they've heard from GoW via official channels about this. Sorry if I jumped the gun, Octavian.

[Cort Haus]

GoW's 'peace' offer to RP

From Togas of RP - Details of the 'offer' from GoW :

(also posted in the RP Diplo log - this is the discussable version)

This was sent to us last month. We didn't even consider it and told Aggie that we would never consider peace with GoW until Spain was free.

Aggie wrote on 25-09-2003 14:40:
We are hereby offering a10 turn cease fire effective immediately. During this cease fire NO troops can enter the other’s territory and all invaders must withdraw. Additionally no galley movement is to take place.
Aggie

Speaks for itself, I think. End of Story.

[asleepathewheel]

Re: GoW's 'peace' offer to RP

Originally posted by Cort Haus
From Togas of RP - Details of the 'offer' from GoW :

(also posted in the RP Diplo log - this is the discussable version)

Speaks for itself, I think. End of Story. [/QUOTE]

What a joke.

Sure we'll give you a ten turn cease fire so that you can move the next rider wave into position

haha

[Cort Haus]

What it does suggest is that GoW is not quite as strong as it would like to be right now.

Bit of a feeble effort at buying time though.

[Theseus]

A couple of thoughts occur to me:

* I concur, GoW is not as strong as they would like to be right now. This is a result of their crap production, even in a GA.

* What does that mean though, really? To me, it means that they do not have the capability to present sufficient Riders for both their southern campaign and their homeland defense.

* The latest delay was for an ROP problem, clearly on GoW's behalf. If we assume that they HAD been trying to balance offensive / defensive needs... doesn't it make sense that the needed ROP was for passage south?

* This is further confirmed by the Lego report that they and ND are amassing troops north of Spain.

So?

1) The friggin' north is vulnerable, and it will take two turns for the Riders to return on defense.

2) Even with all their Riders in the south, they are clearly at their 'minimum' required strength (else why take the risk in the north?).

I think this means that Operation Yellowknife should be a go.

Further:

I think that this can be the 'stick' in our negotiations with GoW. Let's say we initiate discussions re a mercenary backstab of ND, with all appropriate caveats that nothing is done till it's done. In the midst of this, we show up at Yellowknife. Assuming we can reach a deal, easy enough for us to re-embark, and head south to attack ND across their eastern hills / mountains.

/me thinks: Does MZ really have 'Evil Plan' trademarked?