Turn 137, 170 AD

[Shiber]

* General Info
- 871 gold, +174 (at start of turn)

* Military
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* Economy

I'm using *** to mark moves where I note plans for the future. That way if I miss a turn, whoever's playing can check back more easily. (Sorry about missing last one.)

- ***Move the Arashi laborer on the irrigated plains to an irrigated desert. Next turn, the workers in the area can be shuffled to start Arashi producing four-turn knights.
- Move a Whirlwind laborer from WW9-9 to the irrigated plains.
- Monsoon laborer from the mountain takes over that spot.
- ***Move Hurricane laborers from the non-iron mountain and a fur to coast tiles. We'll do that for two turns, and then move them back for two turns, to get a four-turn knight (with a net break-even in food).
- Move Sandstorm's mountain laborer to the vacated fur.

I'll leave the workers up to whoever plays the turn, but go ahead and start one chopping the forest near Dissidentville.


* Diplomacy
- RP offers WM. Accepted.

* Additional info
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[notyoueither]

Could you forward to me, Shiber?

I won't be around again for about 6 hours. Maybe a little more.

[Shiber]

Of course.
Thanks for reminding me. I'll forward to everyone on my list (btw, if you don't want to get the saves all the time, please say so).
Vel, I don't have your address.

[Arrian]

What plan are we following? Are we cutting the iron? If so, when?

-Arrian

[notyoueither]

I would like to see the results of a discussion on that iron point, Arrian. I am away from my Civ3 computer for the rest of the afternoon.

I would imagine it will take one or two turns to organise it. Can we cut a mountain with a WC and then move the WC off the mountain?

[Velociryx]

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[Arrian]

Can we cut a mountain with a WC and then move the WC off the mountain?

Yeah, AFAIK, you can.

The key is having a number of workers ready to start re-roading.

EDIT: Oh, yeah, right. No need to pillage a mountain. We can cut a grassland road. Silly me. Then we just need 2 workers on standby on that tile, and can reconnect whenever we please. Duh.

2nd EDIT: if we have 2 workers to insta-road, timing isn't much of an issue. We complete a bunch of builds, rebuild the road, upgrade, and cut again? Mmmm.

IIRC, the plan was to send iron to RP and cut the other (up north), so that we don't have to deprive Hurricane of its iron mine. So, do we have workers over by Inchoff?

Next, we will need to compile another listing of each city's shield count, +shields/turn, and current build projects. Then we can plan this out properly.

-Arrian

[Arrian]

Until we sort out whether or not we're doing the iron cut, I assume we're following your plan from the other thread?

-Arrian

[Arrian]

Regarding timing:

250AD might be a good time to do it, since most of our cities, particularly the big ones will be completing, or near to completing, their builds. Or do you guys think that's too late?

Here's the thing. Our big, productive cities, capable of punching out 2-turn horsies, 2-turn WCs/spears & 1 turn warriors, are mostly otherwise occupied for the next several turns (knights/pikes/medinfs). If we cut the iron now, they keep building what they're building, and only the low-shield/turn cities can produce the ironless upgrading units. That's not necessarily a bad thing, and if we're willing to devote 2 workers & 1 military unit of any type to this, we can cut/reconnect our iron at will (do it multiple times).

So... shall we have a tentative look at cutting our iron next turn?

We do need to doublecheck that we can cut our iron via cutting 1 grassland road (there be jungle up there, no?)... I haven't seen a map of North Stormia in a while.

-Arrian

[Velociryx]

That sounds like a fine plan to me! The sooner we cut the iron, the faster we start getting hateful numbers of troops!

-=Vel=-

[DeepO]

Indeed, get everything ready to cut it asap... also, we might need to let RP know, AFAIK they don't know we're going to cut their supply road

DeepO

[zeit]

I support the Iron cutting scheme- whatever gives us that power boost quicker. Then we'll just have to decide what we do with all those troops...

[notyoueither]

re Iron.

We have to cut all but one first. The one by Hurricane will continue to go to RP as part of a trade agreement. At that point we are ironless.

At a point in the future when we have some hordes to upgrade, then we cut the road on the grass, and we get the uncut iron back for our own use.

Here's the kicker. We can cut the Monsoon iron this turn, but we cannot cut the Inchoff iron until next turn (no units in range). There are WCs in range to cut the road to the Inchoff iron at the grass 3 of WoC, just barely.

[notyoueither]

btw...

GoW is in a state of lacking Iron.

We are not the only ones doing this. Their doing it gives us no choice but to follow suit, IMO.

[Theseus]

Huh?