GoW- Diplomacy comments #2

[notyoueither]

zeit, please send the NAP as ratified by GS.

This contract is a declaration of a Non Aggression Pact between Gathering Storm and Glory of War. Neither team will engage in hostile activity against the other team for the duration of the contract.

The contract becomes effective on turn 126, 50 BC and will remain in effect for a duration of 30 turns, cancelling after turn 156, 400 AD.

The contract is considered Top Secret and will be treated as such by both teams and by their members. No memeber of either team is allowed to discuss the existence, or details, of the contract with anyone who is not a member of either Gathering Storm or Glory of War.

Signed:
Glory of War Team

Ratified:
Gathering Storm

[zeit]

I tried with all myy might to get a steady connection yesterday, but alas...

I hate it when Poly does that.

Sending now.

[vulture]

Regarding GoW's stance on the MPP thing - they are creating a pretty fine line (or a non-existent one). The first MPP doesn't include any "don't attack each other" clause - RP assumes it is implicit. Someone wises up to this loophole, so they change the wording of the second one to make it explicit. GoW claims that this means they didn't intend a NAP in the first one. I don't find that remotely plausible personally. GoW know they are violating the intent of the agreement, and doing it because it is what they think is best in their current situation - and I happen to agree with them (about it being best, not about it being 'moral', whatever that means in this game). Hadr to feel too much sympathy for RP though...

[zeit]

I don't GoW the goes against the 'spirit' of the agreement- after all, this is a anti-ND thing, if GoW decides to join hands with ND, there's no more of the 'spirit', is there?

RP should know better not to expect generosity or expressions of friendship from anyone, especially not with the atmosphere of between them and GoW lately.

[DeepO]

The point is, I think, that the agreement is nowhere near a full MPP - NAP thing, not even in spirit. However, the chats leading to this agreement, and the chats afterwards are most likely in the spirit of non-aggression... which is why RP is pissed. We have to watch out not to do the same thing with RP ourselves: we can say we're listening, but can't even remotely promise to help them out.

DeepO

[notyoueither]

Chatting with GoW. They want to know if a renewal of the alliance is possible. I am being evasive. I am blaming ND's zenophobia for our actions.

Have planted seed that RP, GoW, and perhaps ND could do some sailing.

[asleepathewheel]

Is there a chat going on right now?

And for that matter, when there is an ongoing chat that others can join or should enter our private chatroom, can someone post it? Some of us (read: me) never seem to know whats going on otherwise.

[Octavian X]

As far as I know, there's a GoW chat wrapping up as I type...

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by Octavian X
As far as I know, there's a GoW chat wrapping up as I type...

Ah, cool. too late, once again

[notyoueither]

Log posted. The only 'fact' I revealed, is that we are very wary of ND. At least that is all I hope to have revealed. If anyone spots something else, please let me know.

That was exhausting. I am not sure that they did not email each other to run a relay on me. One, then the next, then the next. Like being in a room with the bright light and the rubber hoses, almost.

I fear that hopes for deflecting GoW and ND from RP destruction are slim to none, and Slim is on a chicken, half way out of town. That suits me fine. Dog piling Lego would be no more appetising to me than doing the same to RP. We have a game. there are challenges to overcome. Victory can be sweet.

[Aeson]

I think you did very well NYE.

[asleepathewheel]

That was a great chat

It was kind of sad how MZ kept saying "we did what we had to do" Kind of like he regrets it (probably friends with RPs and had to go along with the rest of his group)

It was ridiculous how they kept harping on the old deal. Sigh, like we can go back to that at this point.

What was that about Vox gifting their city to GoW? If that city's not in our hands this turn, its a violation of the treaty right, we should get it accepted now. I say we just take it.

[Aeson]

I'm sure it was just a hypothetical analogy.

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by Aeson
I'm sure it was just a hypothetical analogy.

Yeah, and its about the only wrinkle they could throw at us this turn. Laughable if vox would do it.

[nbarclay]

It's also a somewhat flawed analogy. We did a lot of fighting to get the advantage that forced Vox to cede those cities to us. What blood has GoW shed to pay for a claim on RP's cities?