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  • #16


    It looks good, but MAN, what a time suck that must've been!

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    • #17
      MZ that was impressive and I enjoyd it, thanks.

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      • #18


        It didn't take that long, in fact it took about the same time that a regular game of Civ3 takes. I've been working about 1 hour a day, 2 at the MOST on it for the past week. Creating the .bmp took about 30 minutes only, the only truly crazy part was making the historic core look historic. I probably spent one day's time just knocking down modern buildings until classical buildings popped up.

        Other than that, no worse that the time some of you spend on Civ3

        EDIT: 30 MINUTES!
        Last edited by Master Zen; July 30, 2004, 16:41.
        A true ally stabs you in the front.

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        • #19
          Thirty hours? That's like my quick game.

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          • #20
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            A true ally stabs you in the front.

            Secretary General of the U.N. & IV Emperor of the Glory of War PTWDG | VIII Consul of Apolyton PTW ISDG | GoWman in Stormia CIVDG | Lurker Troll Extraordinaire C3C ISDG Final | V Gran Huevote Team Latin Lover | Webmaster Master Zen Online | CivELO (3°)

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Master Zen


              It didn't take that long, in fact it took about the same time that a regular game of Civ3 takes. I've been working about 1 hour a day, 2 at the MOST on it for the past week .....blah blah blah
              Yeah, yeah, yeah....can you get the map finished for the FAM 6 PBEM?

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              • #22
                Great stuff, MZ. Art for Art's sake, and why not? :applause:

                Thank-you for the tour of the city. Compliments to the curators past and present of the museum - especially for the magnificently preserved Stormian War Chariot. This is an incredibly rare (and probably unique) item, as all such examples on Stormia were broken up Centuries ago during the 'Great Squeeze' after the Bobian War.

                The muskets were interesting too - never actually fired in combat conditions, if I understand correctly.

                One final point - La Defense Financial District and the City of London Financial District cannot be compared, and certainly not so as to award the prize to Paris on this feature.

                The City of London is a mix of commercial glass high-rise and older buildings, but most important, it is dripping with history and character.

                The street plan remains the same as in the Middle Ages, with little alleyways between the narrow streets, up which can usually be found a church, a garden, a pub, and if you wait long enough, a Starbucks.

                All that, before we get to the Roman stuff.

                La Defense, by contrast, is a bleak, stark, soul-less and miserable place, whose single saving grace is that it looks good from a distance. The London equivalent of La Defence is not The City (note : The City refers to the area of the original Roman City) but the new Docklands / Canary Wharf area out east, which looks good from far away, but is as stark, gloomy and soul-less as the Parisian Financial District.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Cort Haus
                  One final point - La Defense Financial District and the City of London Financial District cannot be compared, and certainly not so as to award the prize to Paris on this feature.

                  The City of London is a mix of commercial glass high-rise and older buildings, but most important, it is dripping with history and character.

                  The street plan remains the same as in the Middle Ages, with little alleyways between the narrow streets, up which can usually be found a church, a garden, a pub, and if you wait long enough, a Starbucks.

                  All that, before we get to the Roman stuff.

                  La Defense, by contrast, is a bleak, stark, soul-less and miserable place, whose single saving grace is that it looks good from a distance. The London equivalent of La Defence is not The City (note : The City refers to the area of the original Roman City) but the new Docklands / Canary Wharf area out east, which looks good from far away, but is as stark, gloomy and soul-less as the Parisian Financial District.
                  Yes, well unfortunately Sim City 3000 cannot capture "feel" as well as it can capture photogenics. The City's feel is obviously due to its historical value whereas the newer areas, La Defense, Canary Wharf, etc. don't have that soul. Perhaps New York is the only city which truly blends the historic with the modern financial, especially certain parts of midtown.

                  My intention was obviously to create a historic area, separated from the skyscraper areas, hence using La Defense as an inspiration. Then of course there's the urbanist debate on whether placing a high-rise financial distric on a historic street grid is the most efficient...

                  Anyway, my inspirations were various. Obviously the historic core was inspired on Paris (Le Arc d'Aggie must be a giveway) though the central square was inspired on Mexico City's Constitution Plaza. The Government zone was somewhat inspired on Tokyo's Imperial Palace, hence the foliage and the lakes. Farbtown is, of course, a take on DC's Georgetown. The Viaduct was also inspired by Mexico City's highly-congested freeway of the same name.

                  The rest of the elements are mostly inspired by other SC3K cities I've done.
                  A true ally stabs you in the front.

                  Secretary General of the U.N. & IV Emperor of the Glory of War PTWDG | VIII Consul of Apolyton PTW ISDG | GoWman in Stormia CIVDG | Lurker Troll Extraordinaire C3C ISDG Final | V Gran Huevote Team Latin Lover | Webmaster Master Zen Online | CivELO (3°)

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                  • #24
                    MZ - I have just checked into this forum for the first time in awhile. And look what I find.

                    Truly awesome, my friend.

                    As Cort said - Art for art's sake. Right on.
                    Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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                    • #25
                      I don't visit this forum often enough. Nearly missed this, and that would've been a shame.

                      Great work MZ
                      Don't eat the yellow snow.

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                      • #26
                        Looks good. Well done.

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