War Weariness.

[UnOrthOdOx]

It has become abundantly clear that this forum cannot sustain the likes of roleplaying, poetry, or stories.

I MAY at some point decide to continue the story I started, I am still taking notes, but at this point, given the attitudes expressed both in private and in public, it is no longer worth it to me to upset so many members.

For now, though, I have a purpose that is no longer to wirte stories or to entertain, for it has been made abundantly clear to me that now is not the time for such things. Perhaps when the game is over and done, who knows. My new purpose, though, will be hidden well away in the recesses of the private forum so that it is sure to not offend, rest assured.

That said,

I think there are some members here who need to remember that there is such a thing as roleplaying, there is such a thing as Poly members who are watching THIS forum to get information on what is GOING ON. These members belong not to a team, but are interested just the same.

Roleplaying, poetry, and fun posts are made for the benefit of THEM. They are meant to be entertaining. Not as a need to promote oneself or to 'rub it in'. Get a grip.

[badams52]

As an observer, I miss the stories in the public forum that give a sense of what's going on in the game.

[vulture]

If you don't mind me disagreeing with you Unortho, I think that stories, poems, and to some extent roleplaying are just what this forum needs. I've always enjoyed the Trappings stuff you've written, and would be sad to see it go for good. And I don't think anyone on any team has had a problem with anything you've written.

The problem, from where I stand, is that everyone has a different idea of what is fun, and what isn't. I'm sure some of the 'worst' posts in the general forum have been considered by their authors to be light hearted fun, or great humour. For me, it's like I'm playing a quiet, civilized game of chess. I make a mistake, and lose a bishop, and my opponent jumps up and starts yelling "You're a stupid c**t, and you suck at this game!", and then going on about it for ten minutes.

Obviously, i'm exaggerating for effect.

By nature I tend to be quiet, and (I hope) polite. My sense of humour could either be described as 'subtle', or 'terribly dull', depending on your point of view. So I don't find much of what is written in the public forum to be of interest to me (aside from what I wrote myself ). So I tend not to read it or respond to it, although I'm sure there have been exceptions where I have. I suspect many other GS members have approached this game more in the spirit of a civilized game of chess , but have been more inclined than me to speak out when they crash headlong into someone with a very different idea of what the game is about. (You could take the chess analogy further as an explanation of why we've been neglectful of diplomacy on the whole if you were so inclined).

Anyway, I rarely read this forum now, because doing so makes the game far less fun for me. I'm not very involved in the game at the moment anyway, which is at least partly due to the mudfights here previously (which GS members have always been the paragons of virtue in either).

There is another school of thought that getting your arse handed to you in a protracted war is also a good fun-killer, and it is kind of depressing trying to get motivated into a game where the war isn't making any progress, and occasionally going backwards for us. At least I get the vicarious justification of being opposed to the alliance with RP in the first place. Lego must be laughing all the way home...

Hey, I've an idea. If ND and GoW just let us win this war and conquer all of Bob, then I'm sure everyone in GS will be much happier, and we can all go back to enjoying the game again

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

@vulture:

You're a stupid c**t, and you suck at posting!

-just kidding.

[vulture]

Well that's it. I'm taking my ball and going home now.

WAAHHHH!!!

[Shiber]

I'm telling my momma.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Sheesh, now I'm going to get grounded.

[Hot_Enamel]

Originally posted by vulture
I suspect many other GS members have approached this game more in the spirit of a civilized game of chess , but have been more inclined than me to speak out when they crash headlong into someone with a very different idea of what the game is about. (You could take the chess analogy further as an explanation of why we've been neglectful of diplomacy on the whole if you were so inclined).

That's the best description of GS I have ever heard.

GS has every right to play their chosen style.
No-one could ever or has ever claimed that GS are ruining this game by playing a quiet determined professional game.

However, this game was open to all comers.
We all came with different views as to what this game is like, how it should be managed, what tactics should be used, and what the public forum can be used for.

Many of us enjoy the poem competitions, the Book of Grog, The War Chicken stories, Crystal Clear Reporting, the awards, the self destruction of Lux, the voxidus stories, Vels Spite & Malice thread, the Roleplayers, the passionate arguments of what is aggression, the "is a MPP a NAP?" discussion, and even lighthearted mudslinging.

IMO, it is far easier for the chess players of every team, to ignore the public forum, than it is for the more vocal and passionate writers to be forced stop playing because the chess players dont like it.

Everyone should be allowed their own play style.

[Harovan]

I find Unorthodox' decision wise. Yea stop it.

[Panzer32]

we wouldn't want any more fun to get in here, would we.

[badams52]

I fail to understand you Sir Ralph.

You have admitted to not be "much of a chatter," "only occasionally enjoy role playing," and "hate trash talking."

Given that these are your true feelings, why do you decide to even read this forum? It's obvious from your posts that you hate everything that goes on here, so why do you bother to read them and get yourself upset over what is being said?

Could you be happier and enjoy the game more if you only concentrated on the game play and let others worry about the trash talking and the like?

[Harovan]

Originally posted by badams52
I fail to understand you Sir Ralph.

I'm sorry, but I doubt I can help it. By the way, neither do I understand your complaints.

You have admitted to not be "much of a chatter," "only occasionally enjoy role playing," and "hate trash talking."

Yes. Especially with personal attacks involved.

Given that these are your true feelings,

Yes.

why do you decide to even read this forum?

Because it's the public forum and often contains (or at least contained in the past) useful game related informations and discussions about bugs (there already were quite a few of them). In the last months, it got more and more quiet, anyway.

It's obvious from your posts that you hate everything that goes on here,

No. There were enough funny threads without personal attacks. Unorthodox' Trappings were good, at least the first two or three I still read. I stopped to read them not because I hate them, like you dare to insinuate, but just because I find it tiresome to read through long tales written not in my native language. That's the case for other forums too, including the strategy forum. Want a 90% chance that I will not read a thread? Just make the opening post over a screen long. Then I will read it only if the subject really interests me.

I agreed to Unorthodox' proposal to stop for now, because he's very upset himself (enraged would be a better word, just read the other thread), which without doubt would show in his stories. They do not deserve to be degenerated into hate tirades. He should continue, after he calmed down. No doubt he will, it's not the first time he gets that angry.

so why do you bother to read them and get yourself upset over what is being said?

I'm already ignoring people who deliberately offend others, and don't respond to their posts. This is not limited to this game anymore. It works.

Could you be happier and enjoy the game more if you only concentrated on the game play and let others worry about the trash talking and the like?

Like I said above, you can't play the game out of the ivory tower.

[UnOrthOdOx]

Trust me, I'm not 'enraged'.

Just been bottled up for well over 2 months now. And yes, this is largely the reason no new Trappings have been posted for some time now. The thing with Darekill just set me off because this is something that has been happening to me ever since I started the Gazette. I'm sick of it, and I don't want anyone else to need go through anything aproaching the level of animosity that follows nearly everything I start to write.

I honestly don't know if it's worth it to me to write at Poly anymore because of it, but I'll be damned if I sit back and watch someone else picked apart over creative submissions.

Between GF getting banned over the TruthOmeter and this with Darekill, it just set me off. I can take more happening to me than I can watching it happen to others.

[Arrian]

I don't want anyone else to need go through anything aproaching the level of animosity that follows nearly everything I start to write.

It's news to me (that your writings have aroused animosity).

to Vulture for the chess analogy, by the way.

However, my own interest in this game didn't actually wane due to what went on here in the public forum. That had an effect, but by far more important were two other factors: 1) the sheer size of our empire & number of units we have to deal with. When Nathan & Aeson left, it suddenly occurred to me how much *work* it takes to play a turn. 2) War weariness. GS has been at war almost non-stop since Vox hit us with Immortal Beloved. I'm sick of fighting. I actually enjoyed the building more, despite being one of our generals (a general, I might add, who should probably resign, since I've been slacking).

-Arrian

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
Between GF getting banned over the TruthOmeter and this with Darekill, it just set me off. I can take more happening to me than I can watching it happen to others.

He got banned over that?

Jesus Christ.