A balad for GS

[asleepathewheel]

Pass the bottle of Prozac

[UnOrthOdOx]

Again, I don't care as much as for a dead fly on the wall.

That's why you brought it up, huh?

You know exactly what I was referring to as well. GS knew they were acting in a threatening manner. Go ahead and deny it publicly if it makes you feel better, just reinforces the two-faced attitude I have come to know you (as in GS, not you as in Sir Ralph) by.

Pass the bottle of Prozac

I'm sure GS wants every team as apathetic as them. No dice. I have chosen to put more of myself in this game than any of you will know through Trappings. It is emotional for me.

I will not sit by and watch a team belittle creative submissions by anyone. I draw the line here and now. You want to shut me up, come to the Alamo, or sit back and hide waiting for me to come find you.

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
Im frankly glad you don't see fit to read them. That eliminates one person that could have been the one to report them to the mods. They don't call them that where anyone can see, they prefer to report them or to PM me.

Any ideas on who did that? I find that to be pretty....well on a panag level if you know what I mean. anyway, its highly doubtful that (if it was a GS person) that they are still active on the team

Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
I have nothing but respect for the MEMBERS of GS.

Collectively, i have a distaste for the team that goes beyond measure, however.

Its just a game.

Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
You want a reference? Take Roleplay. They have endured FAR more than you EVER have both in game and in the forum. They have given as well as they have received, and despite likely holding some well deserved grudges are not out posting and b*tching every time someone dares to make a CREATIVE post about their team or game events surrounding their team.

Immortal beloved anyone?

Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
I honestly feel GS is the heart of the matter in sucking this game dry of fun by the constant line of complaints on fun or creative posts and mourning of lost members, and I want it to stop. This requires a removal of the team.

If you want us removed, then you're going to have to bring it to Stormia. And I think you remember the last time GoW landed troops on our shores, and what happened the last time we were invaded at home.

Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
GS, you want me to be silent? Kill my unit and I will. Sir UnOrthOdOx is somewhere near the Alamo.

Bring it. I'll be there.

Roflmao, give it a rest man, we don't give a rat's ass about your unit. You are the one that is making this into something personal.

Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
Aggie, I formally request that my search for MrWIA be put on hold and I be used to remove this GS atrocity from off of Bob, and god willing the game.

good show

[Harovan]

Oh come on Unorthodox, stop it already! I will too, promise. Even though it amuses me a bit to see you fret and fume. I think you should read again all of my posts in this thread and you will see, that you're just wasting your talent barking up the wrong tree, since I have nothing against Darekills poem (even though he never will turn into a Goethe, honestly). Will ya?

In fact, some posters, particularly even from your team, understand my point of view. Why can't you?

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
I'm sure GS wants every team as apathetic as them. No dice. I have chosen to put more of myself in this game than any of you will know through Trappings. It is emotional for me.

I will not sit by and watch a team belittle creative submissions by anyone. I draw the line here and now. You want to shut me up, come to the Alamo, or sit back and hide waiting for me to come find you.

You're a good guy Uno. And a decent writer (rider?).

Peace bro peace, its just a game.

[Darekill]

Little information about my poem and how it came to beeing written...

I had just read in our private forum about the battle and how well it ended for ND. Well I was pleased to put it mildly. So I was in the mood to write such a thing.
I wrote it just as fast as I could type it. no second thought, no reading through over and over to see if it was good. It wasn't even intendet to be good since I know that I'm not talented in such stuff. I didn't care. I thought it would be funny maybe someone would be able to laugh about this awful atempt of poetry.
So everyone can tell me right in the face that i never will be a goehte. That's not new for me, I realised that already.
Ah well, I think my little text was just a catalysator for an argument which I wouldn't even start. You pay to much attention to this...crap?

[UnOrthOdOx]

Originally posted by Sir Ralph
Oh come on Unorthodox, stop it already! I will too, promise. Even though it amuses me a bit to see you fret and fume. I think you should read again all of my posts in this thread and you will see, that you're just wasting your talent barking up the wrong tree, since I have nothing against Darekills poem (even though he never will turn into a Goethe, honestly). Will ya?

In fact, some posters, particularly even from your team, understand my point of view. Why can't you?

Sir Ralph, I fully understand and respect your PoV reguarding Darekill.

My first post was to one OPD who has been using "GS" and presumably speaking on behalf of GS, not himself. Anything beyond that has been responding to your quoting of that or later posts, nothing more.

If you will read my own posts, I am not arguing for mudslinging as you describe, but for people complaining about the creative works such as are found in this thread. Surely you can see the difference.

I'm not saying people need like them, but the should appreciate the effort.

Roflmao, give it a rest man, we don't give a rat's ass about your unit. You are the one that is making this into something personal.

Just throwing in some Roleplaying. I have a named unit, that allows me to personify both in and out of game. I personally enjoy it. If you care or not is not my concern. Yes, I am making it personal. As personal as my search for MrWIA, the dirty rotten no good child killer.

If you want us removed, then you're going to have to bring it to Stormia. And I think you remember the last time GoW landed troops on our shores, and what happened the last time we were invaded at home.

Still have that wall of units preventing such a thing from being POSSIBLE? I honestly haven't looked in a while.

If I have any say, which I am but one voice, I will most surely see to us landing. Never fear of that my friend.

Immortal beloved anyone?

Best you can do is something...how many months ago?

Any ideas on who did that? I find that to be pretty....well on a panag level if you know what I mean. anyway, its highly doubtful that (if it was a GS person) that they are still active on the team

No idea, it's not allowed to ask. There is pretty decent evidence it was from GS, though.

One bad apple....

Hence, I respect the members, not the team. The bunch is spoiled.

Its just a game.

Yes it is, Hence, I respect the members, but not the team. The team must die

[vondrack]

Actually, did I mention that I kind of like beer mixed with a little bit of tequila? Mexican beer, of course... would never do such a mixing thing to Czech beer...

[Arrian]

Jesus H. ****ing Christ.

Darekill's poem is fine. Trappings is fine (I haven't the faintest clue why someone would report you for Trappings, UnO).

As far as I know, OPD was not speaking on behalf of GS. In fact, I'd venture a guess that the vast majority of GS had absolutely no problem with Darekill's post (or any of Trappings).

-Arrian

[Hot_Enamel]

Originally posted by Sir Ralph
What I do call mudslinging is what started with "Vox public announcements", where we with blatant lies were blamed to have not honored treaties and agreements while the opposite was true. This behavior has nothing to do with informing non-players what's going on.

What concerns the attacks from your team later, when you broke our NAP again blaming it on us, they made me just ignore the lions share of your team.

Sir Ralph, it really is a god damn shame that you have also not joined the exodus of GS players to leave your team.
You are truly far better suited, to sticking with the SP strategy forum, and killing AI.

You sound childish claiming you did not see the humour within the Vox Announcements.

And you make yourself and your team look foolish everytime you try and defend your teams position as not agressive against GoW.

Yes..if you were dealing with AI, GoW broke th NAP. But we are NOT AI
Your team took aggressive actions against GoW that the majority of human players within this game clearly agree.


And while I am on a role.... everytime you or a GS member blames your recent defeats on membership loss due to other teams mudslinging, you are coming across as a bunch of snot nosed elitists who's ego is desperately looking for someone else to blame for their own failings.

We know the bulk of GS membership is not like that, but please do yourself and your team a favour and stick to SP. You are hurting this game and your team by bemoaning the play style of other teams.

[Arrian]

H_E,

Our membership problems are a fact, not an excuse we're trying to hide behind. At least I'm not hiding behind it. Our present difficulties in-game are clearly due to choices we've made (or failed to make), in conjunction with choices the other teams have made (or failed to make). That's patently obvious. So obvious, in fact, that I didn't think it requires mention.

As for the repeated claims that GS treats other teams as if they were the AI, I can only laugh. Our negotiations with the various teams (from Vox, to GoW, to RP, Lego...) go far beyond that. We obviously aren't as adept at diplomacy as some of the other teams, but just because our strength lay in domestic planning doesn't mean we were ignoring other teams, or treating them as if they weren't human!

Finally, I still disagree with your characterization of our acceptance of RP's cities as "aggression," but it doesn't really matter. That issue has been thoroughly discussed, and I really don't think it needs further discussion.

-Arrian

[Hot_Enamel]

Originally posted by Arrian
H_E,

Our membership problems are a fact, not an excuse we're trying to hide behind. At least I'm not hiding behind it. Our present difficulties in-game are clearly due to choices we've made (or failed to make), in conjunction with choices the other teams have made (or failed to make). That's patently obvious. So obvious, in fact, that I didn't think it requires mention.

We agree then...

Originally posted by Arrian
As for the repeated claims that GS treats other teams as if they were the AI, I can only laugh. Our negotiations with the various teams (from Vox, to GoW, to RP, Lego...) go far beyond that. We obviously aren't as adept at diplomacy as some of the other teams, but just because our strength lay in domestic planning doesn't mean we were ignoring other teams, or treating them as if they weren't human!

GS are truly the masters of domestic planning

Originally posted by Arrian
Finally, I still disagree with your characterization of our acceptance of RP's cities as "aggression," but it doesn't really matter. That issue has been thoroughly discussed, and I really don't think it needs further discussion.

-Arrian

I am more than happy to agree to disagee on this point.
It's moot, and has already been passionately debated.
(But it was not I who first brought it up this time )

I really do respect the bulk of the membership of GS.
I have learnt an incrediable amount about this game from the strategy forum/SPDG/ISDG and analysis of your teams tactics in this PTWDG.

But I also respectively say, your team also has its fair share of whiners...who's only goal is to hijack the game into their own playstyle.

[Harovan]

Originally posted by vondrack
Actually, did I mention that I kind of like beer mixed with a little bit of tequila? Mexican beer, of course... would never do such a mixing thing to Czech beer...

You did mention it at another time and in another thread. But true remains true.

[Theseus]

Enough bad blood, everyone. And I do mean everyone!

Acknowledged: Inter-team relations have been difficult due to different styles... in gameplay, diplomacy, attitude, etc.

This keeps rearing its ugly head... and GS often seems to be involved. We will do all that we can to minimize that issue; we ask that the other teams try to move on from the past.

Can we get back to the game, folks, and have a little fun? And for those aspects of the game that are played out in PMs, chats, and the public forum... I BEG, on my hands and knees, that those of you who enjoy and thrive on those aspects RETURN, in full force!!

And can somebody PLEASE write the epic Fall of the War Chickens?

[Master Zen]

Originally posted by Theseus
And can somebody PLEASE write the epic Fall of the War Chickens?

Knowing how totally humorless some members of GS are (mind you a very small minorty and definitely doesn't include the current leadership), I'm afraid if GoW wrote that it would lead to another round of stupid bashing.