Build cues for 300BC

[conmcb25]

OK I got a chance to really look at the save today and here is what I came up with for discussion.

If you think I should poll something let me know, we can also discuss here as well, in lieu of a poll.

ROME NORTH

1.Now I see what Paddy was saying about protecting our possessions up north, we need MP’s in Segusio and Beneventum. Any ideas on where to build them? In each Town or elsewhere? This should happen soon. Note only Segusio currently has a barracks
2.Segusio should switch from a spearman to something. What should it be until we get a barracks in there?
3.Anything else anyone sees up here? Do we really need a granary in Aquileia?
4.The arrows are the general direction of our new settlements to cut off the Celts and Greeks. We need MP’s and citizens going both ways soon. The dot is definately a city site I want to settle, it will deter either the Celts or that Civ to the north we keep hearing rumors about from getting too much of an upper hand if they go to war. It does this because we are cutting the main southern road between those two CIVs.
5.Should we redirect some forces in and around Massilia to Corsica? Corsica is usually lighly defended because of the distance from Carthago. We still need to maintain a robust garrison in Massilia against possible attacks from Carthage in Spain.

[conmcb25]

ROME SOUTH

1.I think Neapolis should switch to Adrians Wall after the Persia Trade. (Mil TRNG for Monarchy/Construction/World map). Thoughts? It will be done in four turns.
2.Tarentum should switch from Garrison to worker or citizen, which one? This city is maxed at 6 pop and a full granary, we need to use the power of food Note we could use some more workers up north, they seem to be clustered down south.
3.Genua should switch from Spearman to garrison? Thoughts?
4.Where should we build some more galleys?
5.Am I missing anything here? Discuss.

[conmcb25]

GENERAL NOTES

The pictures are not the best but hopefully they will give you some idea. If you have a specific question and cant access the save for some reason let me know and Ill try and accomodate you. As soon as we discuss this stuff Ill play the turn. Ill give it about 3 or 4 days and then we can move on.

[Aqualung71]

See that Citizen 47 of Aquielia? I was going to send him one more tile up and then settle him, so that we control that valley under the mountains. I agree with your orange dot as a good place to settle.

All Spearmen should be changed to Garrisons. I think we should pump out a few units as you've suggested for MP And garrisons up north, but this may require an early tradeoff with Citizen builds.

[conmcb25]

Up due north or up NW?

The reason why I ask is I usually go north and settle so I can scarf on the gold BUT if we went NW we could still do three tile spacing and get one more city in three tiles from this bugger and Segusio. Or at 4 tiles due NW of Padua. See what I mean? What do you think?

[Daddy-O]

Why are we building a Temple that will take 23 turns in Marsala, when we could have a wall in just 1 turn?

I like Garrisons instead of Spearman.

Please excuse my ignorance - MPs?

Switch Tarentum to Citizen production.

I'll look closer closer later and post again.

[Aqualung71]

Originally posted by conmcb25
Up due north or up NW?

The reason why I ask is I usually go north and settle so I can scarf on the gold BUT if we went NW we could still do three tile spacing and get one more city in three tiles from this bugger and Segusio. Or at 4 tiles due NW of Padua. See what I mean? What do you think?

Yep, I meant 1 tile NW - which is actually on the road so you can settle immediately. I agree with you about 4 tiles NW of Padua too....that would round out this area nicely with that one you've identified further north.

[Aqualung71]

Originally posted by skrobism
Why are we building a Temple that will take 23 turns in Marsala, when we could have a wall in just 1 turn?

I like Garrisons instead of Spearman.

Please excuse my ignorance - MPs?

Switch Tarentum to Citizen production.

I'll look closer closer later and post again.

Perhaps Marsala should produce a Courthouse....I wouldn't build Walls though. Yes to Garrisons - the Spears were inadvertent.

MP - Military Police, for happiness.

[conmcb25]

I agree with no walls, and that we need to switch the temple.

Hopefully within my reign we will have both Temple of Artemis and Hadrians Wall automatically putting both in our cities.

[ChrisiusMaximus]

up to hadrians wall in neopolis

Agree with the consensus you have with Aqua regarding new settlements

What plans have you got for carthage ?

[conmcb25]

Originally posted by ChrisiusMaximus
What plans have you got for carthage ?

Thats the one Im thinking we should have a poll on.

Two schools of thought:

1. Take the Islands first

2. Take Carthago first and the islands will be a cakewalk and we may even get some of them in the peace agreement.

What do you think?

[Modo44]

Raze Carthago first. With the army that should be a cakewalk as well.

[ChrisiusMaximus]

Yep burn carthage first

[snoopy369]

Against an AI, razing Carthage should be easy, even with only 4 galleys or whatnot.

Definitely ToA and Hadrians - a never-ending culture spawn, and the defensive walls are great.

I strongly discourage selling MT. As someone who's played Macedon a few times both SP and MP, anything that makes it easier to get Heavy Cav is a good thing for macedon and a bad thing for us. They can't attack us at all until they get HC meaningfully - and they'll build meaningless swordsmen (3/2/1) until they get the tech for HC, which is good for us because it's a horrid waste of shields (they should build 3/3/1 hoplites, but those I presume are tagged AI-Defense, though I haven't checked). Even a Hoplite is a poor offensive unit against our 1/3/1 cheap garrisons and our legions that are now 5/4/1 and soon 6/5.

So I would like to see the Macedonians having to develop that tech, as slowly as possible, at least until we finish off Carthage and have a half dozen turns to rest and build up.

[conmcb25]

If we are going to switch Lighthouse for hadrians wall we are going to have to trade it to Persia at least. And when they have it we might as well try and get what ever we can out of macedon.

They are going to get it sooner or later, and I would rather we get at least a bunch of Macedon gold for it.

Thoughts?

BTW we are on the Republic beeline for Legionaire III's if we switch and try to RESEARCH construction we will waste beakers and never get it in three turns time anyway.