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  • City number 2 - where O where?

    This coming turnchat we will get to the point we have a settler to build city number 2 with. There are two prevailing options mentioned so far.

    Both are to the SW of Feudality (our capital) along the river and floodplains in the direction of some forests recently sighted by our exploring warrior.

    First one:



    This is closer to Feudality, and can share with that city the two floodplains irrigated and roaded at the time, as well as the irrigated, roaded desert. It can use an oasis, and all the other tiles its radius extend to in the screenshot. Due to the overlap not enough new tiles may be claimed for allocating land out to the Barons to start the Feudal part of the game.

    Second one:



    This city is one tile further from Feudality, so will take an extra turn to move and build, and will thus have less overlap with Feudality. It still gets access to an already irrigated roaded fllodplain and one desert. This city, being further away, brings more tiles into our influence, and may give us enough to start the Feudal allocation of land.

    These screenshots are NOT from the actual game, but from a sim I made based on what we currently know of the world for workforce testing purposes. Some of the tiles to the SW in this new city's radius will likely be different in the actual game.

    As we will not be actually building the settler until the chat AFTER the coming one (in just over 27 hours!), you have three days for this, however unless there are significant posts/votes for a different position than either of these two, the settler will move into position for the FIRST city site in the coming turnchat. Register your different point of view QUICKLY.

    WIA.
    13
    On City Site #1
    7.69%
    1
    On City Site #2
    76.92%
    10
    Somewhere else (please write in)
    15.38%
    2

    The poll is expired.

    Consul.

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  • #2
    Um, there is a major conflict between these maps and the one on an earlier thread on where the ocean starts.

    With the ocean located in the earlier thread along with the river extending all the way to it there, I'd vote 1. With the ocean this close combined with the Volcano, I'd vote 2.
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    • #3
      Re: City number 2 - where O where?

      Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt
      These screenshots are NOT from the actual game, but from a sim I made based on what we currently know of the world for workforce testing purposes. Some of the tiles to the SW in this new city's radius will likely be different in the actual game.
      Guess I didn't put this in a prominent enough place. Those tiles are almost definitely NOT ocean in the actual save. I just made them so in the sim I used for these screenshots. I'm not enough of a picture whiz to superimpose a settler on the actual screenshot.

      FWIW, here is the area we currently know of that these cities could go on.

      The red dot is city site # 1. The blue dot is city site #2
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      • #4
        hehe.

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        • #5
          ...and keep you up until 4am
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          • #6
            I'd prefer the second site merely because of fashion. I dislike ICS and like my cities spread out a bit. Kinda stupid for Feudalism, but anyway.

            Maybe site #2 offers more production. Site one most probably doesn't.

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            • #7
              we should explore more but it's good idea to start discussion earlier
              Last edited by ormuzd; June 23, 2004, 13:42.

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              • #8
                I think the question is answered if we move the Warrior S next turn.

                My opinion at this time is that GF's site (W of Red) would be best. That would give us at least 2 Forest tiles we could chop (saving one for shield use) for a Granary build and give us a little more room between us and the Volcano. The only drawback is the city would be 5 distance instead of 4.5 (for corruption purposes), and probably 2-3 later cities would be closer and knock it down the OCN list a bit. Given the terrain, our likely city placement (not ICS) and the size of the map (higher OCN), I don't think it will be a problem.

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                • #9
                  Ah. Those are FORREST.

                  Can scarcely remember these standard graphics.

                  Didn't think anyone had those anymore.
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                  • #10
                    I'm all for number two. It has better potential shield supply and might possibly be a potential Wonder site early on.

                    (Especially if we can trade for Ivory............)

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                    • #11
                      #2

                      For lotso gameplay reasons, plus the Feudal gets STARTED UP.

                      EDIT: #2 gives us 29 ownable (non-city) tiles, and as there are 20 members and 22 tiles minimum to commence greedy capitalism, it works

                      So does #1, but that's only 26, and plus the gameplays listed above, #2 is better
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                      • #12
                        Hold it a second. The original proposed Citysite 2 is the tile NW of the one marked in the picture. It is also adjacent to the river but had more than one forest available.

                        The REAL choice #2:
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                        • #13
                          I like that new city site #2 (assuming that is a river I see on the edge of the tile right below it, which I believe it is).

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                          • #14
                            Follow Mr twitchy eye.
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                            • #15
                              Thanks Ghengis! I thought something seemed different

                              Citysite #2 still better.
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