First steps: Discussion thread

[MrWhereItsAt]

I'm not sure this is the best move to start with, Spiff. Whilst we are building ten shield units we can do so in 8 turns with a floodplain and the Gems, the same time it takes to grow to pop 2. Once we have another worker and at least one warrior it could be worth it though, to go for the settler.

To be decided in chat... please look at my tentatively worked out orders, and if you can do better, by all means bring it along...

[joncnunn]

Looks to me that best approach with improving around capital is:

1. Road hill we are already on.
2. Road and Irrigate either FP north of the river.
3. Road and Irrigate both desert tiles.

Prime Candiates for second city:

4-1-1 (Flood plains south of Oasios) Potential settler pump.

3-3-3 (Plains on river on coast) Potiental Colosus Wonder site.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

I'm for roading the desert tiles. Flood Plains aren't that great of a Settler pump when they keep REDUCING your city size with disease.

[Aeson]

FP cities are annoying Settler pumps, but generally work with only 1 or 2 bumps in the road. I've had games with 3 FP pumps and no disease, and games were it was several in one city. Generally it averages a disease per city (which will take 2 pop points if you have them).

With FP's and Volcanos we sure are set up to be at the mercy of the RNG though!

The Oasis' can make for good tiles to use. No (extra) threat of disease from working them, and can give 3.1.1 (Irrigated) or 2.2.1 (Mined).

[Odin]

I agree with Spiffor. mine, build worker pop the hut with culture expansin, Warrior, Warrior, Settler.

[Agran]

question

I quite often play agricultural civs and usually when I start on floodplains I start off with a settler. Apparently there was no discussion about an early settler. But for my interest I'd like to hear some pros and cons.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

I could see one Warrior (to explore) and then a Settler, but I do agree that the earlier we start expanding the better.

[Spiffor]

Re: question

Originally posted by Agran
I quite often play agricultural civs and usually when I start on floodplains I start off with a settler. Apparently there was no discussion about an early settler. But for my interest I'd like to hear some pros and cons.

The big con:
We are playing at emperor level. The city will be in unrest at pop two if we don't have a warrior

[Arrian]

Not if you use the luxury slider it won't.

-Arrian, lurker-type

[MrWhereItsAt]

Originally posted by Arrian
Not if you use the luxury slider it won't.

-Arrian, lurker-type

Exactly, and we have plenty of trade around, with that river.

I am drawing up a hopeful set of orders now. That should take us at least to getting a settler. If the next play stops when the settler is built we can poll on where to build the next city too.

[Esoteric]

Wow- 24kbps...

Now that I can get here again, and now that Apolyton remembers me, I can finally say:


ALOHA!

When can I get a tile and start to get RICH$$$$

[Spiffor]

Presumably in two turnchats, Esoteric.

[Spiffor]

Arrian:
I never thought of this trick. It's excellent, thanks for sharing

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Originally posted by Spiffor
Arrian:
I never thought of this trick. It's excellent, thanks for sharing

[MrWhereItsAt]

Originally posted by Spiffor
Arrian:
I never thought of this trick. It's excellent, thanks for sharing

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