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    One poll was still missing, but Here It Is (Civ Demo Game pun intended): the choice whether to play on a computer generated map or a man-made map.

    In this thread, a plan was launched to form a small committee (of 2 people) that makes a map using the editor. This map will then be used in the Part Deux Demo Game. The people who made the map will not play an active role in the game itself, of course.

    Why use a custom map? Well, there are a number of advantages:
    • The most obvious advantage is that computer generated maps are always predictable to some degree. You just know that if you vote for pangea, you'll end up on a huge landmass. It almost always extends west-east, and its features are rather 'dull'.
    • The second advantage is that humans can in fact make a map more challenging for the team. Certain geographical features can be added that include riddles and puzzles. I'm not going to elaborate on this one, since it would spoil the fun.
    • Ah yes, the most important advantage: a custom made map will be more fun to play on.
    • Another idea that we have at this moment is to include some of earth's natural features, like mountain ranges, fjords and rivers, to have a "real world" feel to it. In Togas' words: "stunning, natural, and distinct".
    • We will accomodate the people's wishes: for example, a strong accent on naval warfare.


    Of course, a number of conditions must be met. Starting positions should be balanced, every resource type should be present, etc. - nothing too much out-of-the-ordinary. Also, no civ should be completely isolated.
    Believe us - it will be challenging!

    We hope you vote for our ideas!

    Togas
    BFM
    55
    Man-made Map
    49.09%
    27
    Computer-generated Map
    38.18%
    21
    Don't care
    12.73%
    7

    The poll is expired.

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  • #2
    Sure, watch them give us an island surrounded by mountains with no chance of a port...

    Vote Man-Made, let them do their worst!
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    • #3
      That would be too easy - those mountains would be too defendable... ;-)
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      • #4
        With a computer generated map, we could start immediately while the interest level is still high. While I don't always love the map generater, it gets us started quick.

        How long would we have to wait for a man made-map?

        If a man made-map is used, volcanos and fog (or suitable other secrets) could be added for diversity and interest (see CivFanatics GOTM 17).

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        • #5
          I think that our map can be ready within two weeks, or earlier if necessary. What it the tentative start date for the new game? GodKing has suggested April 27. If that date is chosen we could surely have a map ready before then.

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          • #6
            Man-made. Bring it on!
            Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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            • #7
              Very well, give us a challenge.

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              • #8
                If they can have a man-made map in short order, then lets go for it!
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                • #9
                  Computer map - the computer is probably better at balancing things, plus it doesn't have any even potential biases.

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                  • #10
                    Thanks for correcting my omission, BFM. Poll is now (obviously) topped.

                    I'd like a random map simply because it's simple and we can start right away, but I have no issues with a man-made one.
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                    Back to the ROOTS of addiction. My first missed poll!

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                    • #11
                      hi ,

                      if we are to take a man made map , we should take a world map , .....

                      with correct starting locations (!)

                      "Marla's Map" would be intresting , .....

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                      • #12
                        That would be very predictable, now, wouldn't it ..?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt
                          I'd like a random map simply because it's simple and we can start right away, but I have no issues with a man-made one.
                          Yes, let's go for a random map.

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                          • #14
                            random
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                            • #15
                              Man-made. A natural-looking, well-balanced world sounds more fun than a randomly generated world.
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