Orders thread for the next turnchat, starting at 1380 ad (Sat, 00:00 GMT)

[Aro]

Ok, joncnunn. I'll do it in 1385, right?

[Aro]

Originally posted by joncnunn
Domestic Ministry

[...]

Vetos and planned ones:

1. Any and all Cols in queues in front of Hospitals and Universitys are pushed back behind both of them. (Boosting science to the point where we can reserach Fission in 4 turns is more important than 3 fewer unhappy citizens.)

2. Any and all Infs in queues in front of any domestic imporvement are pushed back to the end of the queue.

[...]

These orders are NOT final until this line is removed

Does this includes Libraries and Aqueducts?

[joncnunn]

Yes; no Infs nor Cols in front of Libaries & Aquaducts either.

The only improvement for cities that are planned to grow past 12 Cols are authorized to be built before is Banks. (Banks & Cols may be built in either order.)

Infs may only be built in cities where the only build options are:

1. Power Plants. (Bug in Civ III that allows you to build inferior power plants when you've built Hoover Dam)

2. In cities that we aren't planning to grow past 12 only; Hospitals.

[Aro]

Thanks, joncnunn. And thanks to the governors for update their orders!

[Aidun]

The last orders of Term 8 for Old Persia: 1380

The last orders of Term 8 for Old Persia: 1380

City: Current build (turns left), building queue. ... means "keep on building last order"
Comments: eventually
WF: changes.
Reasons: eventually
Join: eventually join workers. Maximum: maximum amount of workers that can join the city without danger of a food chortage.
Workers that produce 3 trade are red
Workers that produce 2 trade are green
Workers that can't work on the fields, but can serve as taxmen are blue


Col=Colosseum, Har=Harbor, Pol=Police Station, Hos=Hospital, Uni=University, Inf=Infantry, Cav=Cavalry.
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Arbela Bank (3), Inf, Inf ...
WF: no changes.

Tarsus Hospital (3), Uni, Bank, Col, Battleship.
WF: no changes.
Join: maximum: 5 workers that make 3 trade + 2 who can become taxmen, when hospital is completed.

El Duderino Hospital (2), Uni, Bank, Col, Battleship.
WF: no changes.
Join: maximum: 6 workers that make 3 trade + 2 who can become taxmen, when hospital is completed.

Bacteria Hospital (4), Uni, Bank, Col, Battleship
WF: no changes.
Join: maximum: 6 workers that make 3 trade + 2 who can become taxmen, when hospital is completed.

Muncie Colosseum (1), Inf, Inf ...
WF: no changes.
Join: maximum 1 worker that can make 2 trade + 1 who can become a taxman.

Forbidden City Intelligence Agency (1), Inf, Inf ...
WF: no changes
Join: maximum: 2 workers that can make 2 trade + 2 who can become taxmen.

Antioch Bank (1), Infantry (1), Inf, Inf ...
WF: no changes
Join: maximum: 1 worker that can make 2trade + 1 worker who can become a taxman.

Ghenghistown Colosseum (2), Bank, Inf, Inf ...
WF: no changes.
Join: maximum: 1 worker wo can become a taxman.

Port of Malignance Hospital (4), Uni, Bank, Battleship, Battleship ...
WF: no changes
Join: maximum: 5 workers that can make 3 trade + 2 that can become taxmen, when hospital is completed.

Willsbury University (3), Bank, Battleship, Battleship, Battleship ...
WF: no changes
Join: maximum: 4 workers who can become taxmen.

Rush requests: None

I don't know how to calculate if an additional worker that is integrated shall be unhappy or not.

Posted in time

[Aidun]

Joncnunn, I've included the analysis of the workers that can be added in the "maximum join" of workers.

Aidun

[Aro]

Re: The last orders of Term 8 for Old Persia: 1380

Originally posted by Aidun
The last orders of Term 8 for Old Persia: 1380

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Arbela Bank (3), Battleship, battleship ...
WF: no changes.
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[...]

Arbela isn't a coastal city.

[joncnunn]

Deleted, I see orders for all RG's now.

[Aro]

Posted by Spiffor in the Old german Thread:

Originally posted by Spiffor
Orders 1380 AB - 1405 AB

PW requests

Berlin #12 : Mine
Bremen #10 : Road, Mine, Railroad
Heidelburg #10 : Road, Mine, Railroad
Heidelburg #18 : Mine
E-Town #10 : Mine, Railroad
E-Town #11 : Road, mine, Railroad
E-Town #18 : Road, irrigation, Railroad
E-Town #19 : Road, Mine, Railroad
E-Town #20 : Road, Mine, Railroad


City planning

1380 AB

Neo leipzig
Change queue to Marketplace, Courthouse, Police Station, Hospital, Colosseum
Please RUSH Marketplace in Neo Leipzig.

Howitzerville
Please RUSH Courthouse in Howitzerville (I know it is only 5 turns away, but it will prove more cost efficient when we rush the hospital)

Neo Frankfurt
Please RUSH Courthouse in Neo Frankfurt.
Change queue to Courthouse, Hospital, Marketplace

Heidelberg
Change queue to Courthouse, Cathedral, Marketplace
Please RUSH Courthouse
WF to 1,3,13,14,16, 17

Nuremberg
Change queue to Library, Courthouse, Colosseum, Factory, Bank
Please RUSH Library (cultural conversion risk)

Bremen
WF to 1,5,6,7,17

Heroes' Summit
WF to 1,6,7,15,16,18
Change queue to Aqueduct, Harbor, Marketplace, Colosseum

E-Town
WF to 3,4,5

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1385 AB

Berlin
Pop grows. WF to 1,2,9,10,12,20

Neo Leipzig
Pop grows. WF to 1,5,7,8,14,15,16

Neo Frankfurt
Pop Grows. WF to 1,3,4,5,6,14,18,19

Heidelberg
Pop Grows. WF to 1,3,12,13,14,16,17

Hannover
Pop grows. WF to 4,5,6,16,18,19
Change queue to Courthouse, Colosseum, Library, Police Station
Please RUSH Courthouse in Hannover

Bremen
Pop grows. WF to 1,2,5,6,7,17

E-Town
Pop grows. WF to 2,3,4,5

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1390 AB

Berlin
Pop grows. WF to 1,2,4,9,10,12,20
Please RUSH Courthouse.
Change queue to Courthouse, Colosseum, Police Station, Library, Hospital

Neo Leipzig
Please RUSH Courthouse in Neo Leipzig.

Howitzerville
Pop grows. WF to 1,2,3,4,7,8,9,10,16,19,20

Bremen
Please RUSH Aqueduct in Bremen (needed for Bremen to grow next turn)

E-Town
Pop grows. WF to 2,3,4,5,12
Please RUSH Courthouse in E-Town

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1395 AB

Neo Leipzig
Pop grows. WF to 1,5,7,8,14,15,16,19

Neo Frankfurt
Pop grows. WF to 1,3,4,5,6,14,18,19,20

Heidelberg
Pop grows. WF to 1,3,7,12,13,14,16,17

Nuremberg
Pop grows. WF to 1,2,3,4,5,6,16
Please RUSH Courthouse.

Hannover
Pop grows. WF to 4,5,6,10,16,18,19

Bremen
Pop Grows. WF to 1,5,6,7,8,19,20

Heroes' Summit
Pop grows. WF to 1,6,7,8,15,16,18

E-Town
Pop grows. WF to 2,3,4,5,12,13

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1400 AB

Berlin
Pop Grows. WF to 1,2,4,9,10,19,20

Howitzerville
Pop grows. WF to 1,2,3,4,7,8,9,10,16,17,19,20

E-Town
Pop grows. WF to 2,3,4,5,12,13,18

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1405 AB

Neo Leipzig
Pop grows. WF to 1,5,6,7,8,14,15,16

Neo Frankfurt
Pop grows. WF to 1,3,4,5,6,7,14,18,19,20

Heidelberg
Pop grows. WF to 1,3,7,8,12,13,14,16,17
Please RUSH Cathedral in Heidelberg

Nuremberg
Pop grows. WF to 1,2,3,4,5,6,16,17

Hannover
Pop grows. WF to 4,5,6,10,17,18,19

Bremen
Pop grows. WF to 1,5,6,7,8,11,19,20

E-Town
Please RUSH Cathedral in E-Town

[Aro]

Originally posted by Spiffor

[...]

Neo leipzig
Change queue to Marketplace, Courthouse, Police Station, Hospital, Colosseum
Please RUSH Marketplace in Neo Leipzig.

[...]

Hospital isn't avaliable in the Neo leipzig's Q.

[Aidun]

Re: Re: The last orders of Term 8 for Old Persia: 1380

Originally posted by Aro
Arbela isn't a coastal city.

Wow that's VERY BIG MISTAKE. I didn'y notice it was one tile from the ocean.

I'll change it immediately

Aidun

[Aro]

Aggie PMed me some orders:

Aggie wrote on 14-02-2003 15:00:
As acting SMC here are the orders. Engage the japanese navy as much as possible and keep the war going until we get a spy in Japan. After that we can make peace at the earliest possible moment. If ships approach allow them to land troops on a grassland or plains and then attack. First shell with artillery and then attack with infantry(2/2 first,then calv). Also dismantle the worker wall on grassy areas. all other orders are in your most competent and wise hands.
Gen Aggie(Kinda retired)

[Aro]

Shiber posted his orders in the FAM's office thread:

Originally posted by Shiber
Turn 0 (1380 AD, beginning of turnchat)
We're selling some luxuries at ridiculous prices this turn. The reason for this is that we want the world economy to improve, in order to create richer trade partners.
- Sell Spices to Greece for 76 gold & 8 gpt. (total: 236 gold).
- Gift Dyes to the Iroquois. We want the world economy to improve so that we can be paid more in the future, and we have 5 other extra sources of dyes.
- Sell Mass Production to England for 71 gold & 42 gpt (total: 911 {it's a coincidence, I swear! } gold).
- Sell Spices to Russia for 63 gold & 5 gpt (total: 163 gold).
- Sell Wines, Dyes & Spices to Babylon for 47 gold & 6 gpt (total: 167 gold).
- Sell Dyes, Spices, Iron & Saltpeter to Persia for 2 workers, 46 gold & 2 gpt (total 86 gold, 2 Persian slaves).
- Sell Radio to Zululand for 106 gold & 40 gpt (total: 906 gold).

Turn 1
- Intelligence Agency project complete. Attempt to plant a spy in Japan. If the operation does not succeed, try again next turn (but never try planting a spy twice during the same turn). Repeat this order until the operation succeeds.

Turn 3
- Motorized Transportation is completed. India will research it themselves shortly afterwards and will sell it to anyone who is willing to pay a price, so let's do this ourselves before they get a chance to. Sell Motorized Transportation to anyone willing to pay at least 1,000 gold (in cash, gpt or mixed). From this point and until the end of the turnchat, check for more clients for Motorized Transportation every turn.

General Orders
- Check for tech deals every turn. Sell any tech (preferably the oldest and cheapest one, if we have a choice) to any civ if they are willing to pay 700 gold (in cash, gpt or mixed) or more.
- I'm afraid I will not be able to attend this turnchat (2:00 AM local time is simply impossible). Since I won't be present and will not be able to react to any surprise conditions, I announce that any or all of the above orders may be changed, should they become harmful or inappropriate. I recommend that the present cabinet be polled on any changes to my orders before they are made.

Special topics for discussion
* Peace with Japan: when, why and under what conditions?

[joncnunn]

Looking at Aro's coments:

Hum, Battleships in cities that are seperated from the ocean by 1 tile are vetoed.

Structures in orders to be built that the city already has are vetoed.

[Aro]

From FAM orders:

Gift Dyes to the Iroquois. We want the world economy to improve so that we can be paid more in the future, and we have 5 other extra sources of dyes.

The Iroquois don't want dyes, but incense.

@Aidun: