Barracks: Fortress Uber plans

[Shiber]

Meshelic, I fully understand. I can delay the peace treaty with Japan by a turn or two if you'd want me to.

[Aro]

That's the spirit!

[Panag]

Originally posted by Shiber
Meshelic, I fully understand. I can delay the peace treaty with Japan by a turn or two if you'd want me to.

hi ,

, what is the max on waiting for peace , given WW and all

have a nice day

[joncnunn]

As long as we sink Jap ships within our coastal waters it produces no WW at all.

[roadcage]

I do not 'like' our naval plan for Uber. It makes more sense to keep the Japs circling back and forth between Uber and the Mainland by opening and closing worker walls until such time as our main force is released up north. Then we allow them to land on flat terrain on the mainland that we choose. Then Artillery bombard and crush with Cav.

In the meantime, our Ironclads just bombard the Jap fleet every time it sails by due to opening and closing the worker walls. Bombardment is non lethal, so no war weariness will ensue.

[joncnunn]

Note that under 1.21f, nicking the paint off an AI's ship (including via bombarment) will cause it to head straight for the closest friendly harbor.

[roadcage]

Note that under 1.21f, nicking the paint off an AI's ship (including via bombarment) will cause it to head straight for the closest friendly harbor.

Which is beneficial. Our bombardment will initially be on the frigates because they are better defenders than galleys. I really, really hope the frigates turn and run leaving their galleys as sitting ducks.

I don't think this will happen, based on the results of that Roman galleon escorted by ironclad early in the conflict. The ironclad sustained hp damage and stayed on it's covering mission to the end.

Ssgt roadcage (retired)

[Meshelic]

From GeneralTacticus's Intelligence Report, an overall update on our situation in the regions we are waging war....

Intelligence Report 1330 AD

German Front:

1) The Greek incursion into our territory does not appear to have been hostile; their troops are currently moving NE in the direction of Germany.

2) Due primarily to the war and the German draft, the citizens of Berlin will riot next turn if action is not taken.

3) It is quite likely that Leipzig, as it active resisters are pacified, will riot; they will riot anyway if nothing si done, but pacifying resisters will likely introduce new citizens faster than we can deal with them

4) The mountain SE of Heidelberg offers an excellent strategic position for an assault on the city; not only will not allow us to make mincemeat of any counterattack, but it will also permit us to shell the last two roads out of Germany, which will ensure their inability to purchase any resources at all from other nations, if they can find anyone who’s even willing to deal with them.

5) It seems quite likely that the fall of Leipzig had one unexpected effect: it has also destroyed Germany’s diplomatic reputation, as before it fell they had two active trade deals, likely for oil or horses to some of the few nations that have not embargoed them, and now have none, as they have now lost those resources.

Roman Front:

1) There is currently a Roman Ironclad escorting a Galleon off the coast of Uber Isle; considering it’s speed, an addition four units will be required to prevent them from landing, which will only be available in the short term by redeploying the garrisons of cities not yet threatened.

2) There is also a Babylonian Galley there, but any measures taken to prevent a Roman landing will prevent theirs as well.

Japanese Front:

1) There are 4 Japanese ships off the northern coast of Uber Isle, with a total carrying capacity of 6; 1 additional unit will be required to block them from landing next turn.

2) I repeat my earlier concerns that leaving Port of Where It’s At and Jerusalem unguarded is somewhat unwise; Japanese Galleons are fast enough to move out of the Fog of War and disgorge troops before we can stop them.

3) There is a Japanese galleon off our eastern coast near Tarsus; 7 units will be required to prevent a Japanese landing there.

[Panag]

Originally posted by joncnunn
Note that under 1.21f, nicking the paint off an AI's ship (including via bombarment) will cause it to head straight for the closest friendly harbor.

hi ,

also in 1.29 and PTW , .....

so shoot them

have a nice day

[Aro]

Originally posted by Meshelic
From GeneralTacticus's Intelligence Report, an overall update on our situation in the regions we are waging

3) It is quite likely that Leipzig, as it active resisters are pacified, will riot; they will riot anyway if nothing si done, but pacifying resisters will likely introduce new citizens faster than we can deal with them

What about the roadcage plan?i mean, abandon Leipzig and found Neo Leipzig in the same turn?

1- Sell bank in Leipzig for 20 L
2- Place settler 1 tile N of Leipzig.
4- Railroad E of Neo Leipzig
3- Abandon Leipzig, found Neo Leipzig.

Originally posted by Meshelic

4) The mountain SE of Heidelberg offers an excellent strategic position for an assault on the city; not only will not allow us to make mincemeat of any counterattack, but it will also permit us to shell the last two roads out of Germany, which will ensure their inability to purchase any resources at all from other nations, if they can find anyone who’s even willing to deal with them.

From Neo Leipzig, we can take this mountain in this turn, with some few cavalry, or next turn with massive stack of cavalry.

Originally posted by Meshelic

5) It seems quite likely that the fall of Leipzig had one unexpected effect: it has also destroyed Germany’s diplomatic reputation, as before it fell they had two active trade deals, likely for oil or horses to some of the few nations that have not embargoed them, and now have none, as they have now lost those resources.

Great news!...

[roadcage]

We have been blocking Uber landings because we have no Artillery there. Looking at the 1340 save, it appears likely that we will be trying to accelerate the demise of Germany by attacking faster than our Artillery can be positioned. Hence it seems reasonable that the next 2 Uber Ferry crossings take Artillery 'over there'. Remember, Artillery is just effective as any other unit as a tile blocker, and it limits the number of attackers we need to put down any landing.

[Meshelic]

I could divert a small amount of Artillery to Uber Isle, say, about 7 or 8, to help replace the worker wall (and also fire on approaching ships) . I had wanted to see all our Artillery stay grouped until the end of the German War, but since the Germans are now in a very weakened state and probably won't survive the next 2-3 turns, I can approve of this measure to move some to Uber Isle.

[Aro]

A very wise decision, Mr. SMC General Meshelic.

[Meshelic]

You can thank Roadcage for helping me reach that decision.

[Aro]

Yes, thanks roadcage!
Btw, roadcage has providing us with the most valuable suggestions and plans. Thanks again, sarge!